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2018 S Kennedy Half Silver Reverse Proof Set Mark On Rev

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 Posted 08/07/2018  6:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add radatat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good day. I just received this proof set and I notice what I think is an incuse mark on the rev of the Kennedy. Normally this would be PMD but it came directly from the mint. A strange action so I thought I would ask you all about it. Photos not good because taken through the plastic casing.

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Rich
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 Posted 08/07/2018  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Normally this would be PMD but it came directly from the mint
It is PSD,Post Strike Damage. It can happen at any time once the planchet has been struck.
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1st of all.
That is why the preferred term is PSD. Which stands for post strike damage. It doesn't matter where the damage happened.
2nd I believe we saw this with the SMS sets as well. An area where apparently the dies special finish was marred. So imho what you have here is not PSD nor PMD. It is a die state that reduces eye appeal. It is also possible that a small particle got in the way of the strike. Not enough to leave an impression o the coin, but enough to prevent the specially finished dies from doing their work.
A good return Candidate if you ask me.
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 Posted 08/07/2018  6:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add radatat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks John and Big S. I got two sets so I will keep it for future discussions at happy hour. Smile. Best to all. Rich
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Looks like a PSD that affected the fields. That is different. Fields frosted, bust a rear design is shiny. I wonder how they polish the die now? Maybe re-laser the fields? The program is computer generated.
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That's Post Strike Damage on the reverse. Your coin is also in a later die state as well.
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Remember. If it's incuse, than it's most likely Post Strike Damage.
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Got it and thanks. But I see it a bit differently with all due respect. PSD on a proof directly from the mint is in my mind a clear error. I shall keep it in that regard. I like it and no one loses.
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Ok I put this coin under a microscope at high mag, through the plastic, and the upper end is not incuse. It definitely protrudes. I cannot tell about the rest but it may also be protruding out. Just an update for the fans. I'll try for a better pic but am not enthusiastic unless I remove it from the casing. Rich
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If it is raised, could be a die chip or die gouge?
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Sort of reminds me of PL Franklins with fiber stuck to the die, leaving squiggly marks on the coin. A possibility?
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It could be grease on the coin?
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Here are some new images of the mark. Best I can do through the casing. Rich.

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Looks like damage to me.
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Hi E and V. Yeah just hard to tell if it is a strike damage or post. Again since the mint prides itself on error free coins, it is interesting that this one would be sold to a mint investor without some type of QA. Maybe it happens a lot. Tks
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