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Pillar of the Community
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Or are they related somehow to each other? Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Insider2 on the CU forums would know
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Nope. Never. Completely separate companies. ACG went out of business after the divorce, the wife ran it for a bit out of Florida and then it popped up for a last run in Canada. PCI has gone through several ownerships, bankruptcy, sold to David Lawrence Rare Coins and ran as DGS for a while. After they closed down it was sold and run as a fraudulent TPG (actually an FPG) in 2011. It was bought and restarted again. The latest slabs have a label I call the bullet train - looks like train tracks. Here's an example (absurd price): https://www.ebay.com/itm/253819274534
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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Pillar of the Community
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Hey, great! Thanks for the info.
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Pillar of the Community
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An update - hunting through old threads and refound this.
I think PCI is FINALLY dead. Their web domain, pcicoins.com now redirects to an Indonesian page (since April 1, 2019)... it's now "The Most Trusted Online Live Casino gambling site", but given how their grading was, that's not a big change.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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Quote: but given how their grading was, that's not a big change. 
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Pillar of the Community
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Yes, I think the fork is officially in them.
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Oh well, back in the day PCI coins commanded higher prices than NGC and PCGS as reported on the gray sheet. Really!
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Bedrock of the Community
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That's kind of hard to believe, I must say. Not sure how you could corroborate this. 
Edited by Coinfrog 07/29/2019 9:56 pm
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Easy to corroborate and generally not true. Old grey sheets are available in the NNP archives (The Coin Dealer Newsletter)... there used to be a published table relating prices of the various grading companies, e.g from 29 Jan 1993:  Obviously, there were some coins where PCI had the high price, but the average is 90% vs. 95% for PCGS.
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks for that! 
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Quote: Old grey sheets are available in the NNP archives (The Coin Dealer Newsletter)... there used to be a published table relating prices of the various grading companies, e.g from 29 Jan 1993: 
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