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Canadian 1c Varieties And My Lighthouse Album

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I'm working on a Canada 1c Lighthouse album -- or at least part of one. Because I'm accustomed to collecting Canadian decimal coins until the end of the silver era in 1967, I thought I'd just do the same with my coppers. I'm going to take it to 1972 just because the page that includes '67 goes that far.

Right now I'm concentrating on some of the more recent and affordable coins in the album, mostly from the 1953-72 period. I've found some really nice pieces, but -- as the folks on this forum would imagine -- I've run into far more varieties than I realized existed. The album only covers the ones I did know about from the Charlton Guide. They haven't arrived yet, but I guess against my better judgment, I've acquired:

1953 UNC NSF - Hanging "3"
1956 UNC RED Rotated die
1957 BU Double hanging "7"
1958 BU Doubled "58"
1959 BU Rotated die and die crack
1960 BU Partially plugged "9"
1962 BU Hanging "2"
1963 BU Double hanging "3"
1964 UNC Lump on "9" (aka die chip on "9")
1965 UNC Double "5"
1965 UNC Type II Small Beads - Blunt 5
1965 UNC Type III Large Beads - Blunt 5
1967 BU Doubled "C" and wing

So, aside from the 1965 Type II and III Blunt 5s, I was thinking I would just have to print out my Excel sheet, for the inside cover of the album, that would list these varieties. I was assuming I couldn't just put, say, the "Hanging 2" variety into the generic-looking 1962 hole without any special notation.

I know there isn't really any "right" or "wrong" answer, but I was just wondering what others have done in this situation. I could just get blank cent pages for the album, as the pages can easily be taken out and replaced given the three-ring binder, but the pages look so nice with the years/descriptions printed on them. :)

Apologies for the quality of this photo. I just wanted to show what the pages look like.


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 Posted 08/18/2018  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Except for the 1965 Type II and III all your coins are errors, not varieties.
The album likely contains all varieties known as of the date it was published,it appears to be missing a few.
If the album were to include all widely popular errors such as hangers,guitars ,harps, doublings, chips etc. it would be too heavy to lift.
As you said there is no right or wrong but IMO fill the album as is.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Ohhh I see. Thanks for that information.

Yeah, I think I'll fill it with these errors and the varieties, and just note the errors in an accompanying spreadsheet.
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Yes, a "variety" is a modification to the design approved by the mintmaster, such as repunching, re-engraving, mods to the monarch, date spacings, bead/denticle placement, etc, which result in a permanent modification to the working dies or hubs and all coins by that hub/die will have the mod. An "error" is something introduced by the machinery, planchets, workmen, or minting process that will result in only a relatively small percentage of the coins of that date to be affected. These would include Cuds, cracked planchets, die cracks, Die Deterioration Doubling, Machine Doubling, polishing, etc.
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Ah. I feel like I've been collecting long enough to have known this distinction, but it's good to have it entirely clarified now.
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I like the Zoell split between Major and Minor varieties; whereas major varieties are on the die when punched/finished.

They are all varieties IMO as long as they are not one-offs (i.e phanchet flaws, strike throughs, etc.)
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