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1940 S Lincoln Wheat Ear Penny With Die Crack Reverse

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I have this 1940 s Wheat penny and was curious what it might grade at. There is a die crack in the left wheat ear. This coin is quite shiny for it's age.
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Higher grade coin, in MS62 or better, worth a few bucks, suggest you protect it in a 2x2 quickly, hold by edge!
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I don't think it's a crack.
I think it's from a scratched/damaged die.
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It looks raised especially the part on the lower end of the wheat stalk. OP if you gently run a tooth pick over it, does it feel raised?

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Unsure if those marks in the right obverse field are streaks or scratches. Assuming just streaks, I'd say 64RD.
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I keep it in one of those circular hard plastic containers that snap together. When I run a toothpick over it it does feel raised.
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Looks like a nice example.

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That's is a die crack all the way down the left wheat stock. Very nice coin I'm with the others it's about mid MS
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I don't think it's a crack.
I think it's from a scratched/damaged die.


You say this all of the time, and I don't get it at all. It's clearly a Die Crack. Anyways, for the grade, I would say MS-63.
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I am in at MS64RD. Nice coin
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I don't think it's a crack.
I think it's from a scratched/damaged die.


You say this all of the time, and I don't get it at all. It's clearly a Die Crack. Anyways, for the grade, I would say MS-63.

Although interior die cracks do occur they are rather unusual, particularly for 20th century coins.
I base my opinion on the fact that the feature doesn't extend into the fields, never mind to the rim.

I visualize a metal thread from something like a wire brush getting into the striking chamber when a previous coin was struck.
That item when struck imparted its image on both a previous coin and the die.
After that the item fell out and all subsequent coins were struck with the now altered die.
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I visualize a metal thread from something like a wire brush getting into the striking chamber when a previous coin was struck.
That item when struck imparted its image on both a previous coin and the die. After that the item fell out and all subsequent coins were struck with the now altered die.


Occam's razor (also Ockham's razor or Ocham's razor; Latin: lex parsimoniae "law of parsimony") is the problem-solving principle that the simplest solution tends to be the right one. When presented with competing hypotheses to solve a problem, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions...= die-crack.

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Kanga it does indeed go to the rim you can see it from the top of the crack to the rim it's faint but there.
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It goes to the rim so it's a die crack. No reason to think it's die damage IMO.

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Yes it is very faint but it does go all the way to the rim. Thank you all for looking at my coin. I have several other wheat pennies that are in even better condition.
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