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I posted this in my thread, but it's not so wide for everyone, so... I didn't find any mentions about this in english internet. In russian internet this method isn't very popular too, I noticed there's only a few mentions about it. Usually folks here using sulfur ointment that makes very bad and light tarnish. So, this time I was making it with 1910s penny, that had acid cleaning (or alkali) and now shines. Before (seller's photos):   |
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So, how I'm doing this: Take a glass jar with tight cover, pour out some (20-30ml is enough) smelling salts (ammonia inhalants, spirit of hartshorn or sal volatile) - do you have it in US drug stores? Coin in a clamp, clamp to a string, all in a jar. Notice - if ammonia will touch a coin it will be very bad. Aware of it. Second step - wait and watch. Don't heat up jar or put it in sunlight to prevent sedimentation of ammonia on a coin. This can make it green. I'm talking about sweating, don't now if I use correct word. In 1-2 hours your coin will be tarnished to very natural solid color. If you want to make it darker, make process longer.    |
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I really hope this info will help you to reanimate your pink and shiny copper/bronze coins. And now IHC. Before (seller's photos) it had ugly pink color.   |
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Now. Insane difference, huh? That case illustrates a common mistake - before jar procedures that coin was improperly cleaned and had remains of dark gunk, turned into that green things. It's not dead end. Acetone + toothpicks and it's done. But it's not a problem anyway because we just turned pink coins into dark brown (photo don't give the right perception of color).   |
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Another work. 1/2 kopeks, Russia  |
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My last work. Before  |
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Now Final result. Nice glossy tarnish, but spotty a bit... Color more dark, photos don't show it really.   |
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I found a mention about this method here. http://goccf.com/t/327960I don't really know how it's popular in english part of Internet, but I want to share it with EVERYONE. I'm exciting every time I'm making this and I really want you all guys reanimate all your dead pink coins. If you have any questions - feel free to ask me here or using email. Edited by flying_teapot
09/10/2018 12:23 am
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That is quite interesting. This tho to us picky Americans, and especially the prudish numismatic purists who lose all sense of reason and control when mentioning the cleaning and "re-toning" of coins. They insist all must be natural, from the beginning, no cleaning, no modification and especially no "artificial toning" Allowed! To those uptight individuals...  Here seems a great way for folks like myself that deal with quantities of coins, bulk and lot purchases of provenances and states unknown, who wind up with a lot of these "previously attacked and destroyed" coins. To take some and make them a bit more "eye appealing" only makes cents to me. To each his own tho, this toning method is for personal benefit, but as is with all invention, will and can be used for nefarious actions such as the resale of such products without disclosure, that is not a nice thing to do, and could be considered by some, criminal. If it is done for my own use, great, not so to resell tho. I really do like that 1910S, that has a nice chocolate brown look, very eye pleasing, again a bath in acetone may take the green tinge away. One thing I did notice on the Indian Head cent. That black "gunk" that turns green is stuff that the original cleaning didn't remove. Maybe a prior bath in acetone would help before the "treatmen Edited by Crazyb0
09/10/2018 02:09 am
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This is an interesting thread indeed.  Errers and Varietys.
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I believe you have created a coin Time Machine (that only travels forward).  I think the 1910-S LWC and the 1911 1/2 kopek turned out great. The IHCs, on the other hand, seem to show that they have been artificially treated much more. Neither look near natural to me. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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09/10/2018 02:24 am
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 That 1910s does look great I do agree that the IHC's do not look natural. But as stated, perhaps am acetone bath will help that. I have a few coins that I may have to try this on. |
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It seems a pre-treatment acetone bath may be required so unnecessary material does not interact and cause ugly spots.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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That's really cool. I personally like the obverse of the 1907 IHC. I may have to experiment with this myself someday.  Edited by CoinBuffalo
09/10/2018 03:23 am
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Yeah, this toning is kinda artificial, but in most cases it don't have big visual difference with "natural". And I'm insisting on that fact, that smelling salts making natural toning - because it's just accelerated oxidation. This method can be used to fool someone, but if fooled person wouldn't see the difference - and in fact there's might be no difference in compairing to natural toning - I don't see anything bad in it. It's bad, but not so bad. And I'm still sure some dealers (anythere in the world) use it and don't talk to it, because it's making money. Anyway it's a great method for dead pink coins, and I will be glad to see your results  |
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Have you ever tried an 100% pure acetone dip after you have re toned a cent? What does it look like? John1  |
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