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Inquiring About Silver Coin (New Pics) | Indian Temple Token

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 Posted 07/13/2008  2:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add mohammad to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have this coin from 25 years want to know what is this and who much is worth. it says Abu Baker Osman Ali and date 3. Ah
second side has 1st qalma which we muslims have to read to become muslims.some how I am unable to download the pictures .Thanks mohammad.

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 Posted 07/13/2008  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Square coins like this are almost always from India. It will probably be from either the sultanates of Delhi or Malwa or an early Mughal coin; If no one else has posted with more info, I'll look it up in my references when I get home later today.
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 Posted 07/14/2008  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No luck so far. I'll keep trying, but a clearer pic of the reverse would be handier.
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 Posted 07/14/2008  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DCH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obverse looks like a Mughal rupee of Akbar, maybe KM# 88.7?
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 Posted 07/15/2008  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm convinced it is indeed a coin of Mughal emperor Akbar; his coins are a better match stylistically than any of the other possibilities. Check out these zeno.ru pages for some similar coins. Akbar reigned from 1556 to 1605 AD, so not all his coins are going to be listed in the 1600's Krause.

In the 30th year of his reign (= 992 AH / 1584 AD) he began to issue a new style of coin, especially for use in his non-Muslim territories, removing the kalima and replacing the AH date with a regnal year date. This coin has the kalima, so logically it's supposed to have the AH date on it somewhere.

At the bottom of the reverse are some figures that does indeed look like Arabic "03", and it might be part of the date. "903" is way too early for a coin of this style, so it would be "1003" (= 1594/5 AD).

Mughal coins of the period followed the Persian tradition of putting poetry on the reverse. The mention of Abu Bakr, Osman and Ali are presumably a poetic reference to the founding caliphs, and Akbar is hoping he will live up to their standards. Other coins of Akbar show the names of the four caliphs on the obverse, around the kalima.
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 Posted 07/16/2008  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mohammad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,with all respect for all your hard work to find the information on this coin one thing is bothering me is that all Akbar coins have his name no mater what is written on the coin if some other areas we look just requesting .
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Puzzling. I've finally found what looks to me to be a very close match for this coin, here on Zeno.ru. It's listed under "Muslim religious medals, tokens etc", rather than proper coinage, but no-one actually explains why it was categorised as such.

If that categorisation is correct, then it's not actually a real coin, but what we Western numismatists call an "Indian temple token" (even though most of us know that Muslims don't have "temples" ). If it's a token, that would also explain why the date is so hard to read. Square coins of Akbar with the kalima-in-diamond design and the poorly-written fictitious "date" 988 are the more commonly encountered design of Islamic token.
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 Posted 07/18/2008  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mohammad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you that is arealy big help.
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 Posted 01/13/2009  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mohammad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I buy almost same kind of coin only diffrent is the date I have very clear picture but I am unable to put on
forum.if some one help me on this.
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