Does Anyone Have Photos Of Far And Near Beads In PL & SP For Small Cents?

http://coinsandcanada.com/coins-pri...nt-1965-1989
John1

Thank you John for the link, but it only shows pictures of the circulated coins, and prices for coins that may or may not exist. As pasasap said, we're looking for 'proof' of a proof.

pasasap I have a photographs of a large and small 1983 beads. I have never been able to find a near and far. I think there is a mix up. I believe that is what they really are is a large and small. if you would like. I can post those images for you. hope this helps.

If I buy 1983 Far Beads in PL, SP, or/and PR, then I will post photos for all to see. I do not have a problem doing that at all. The issue is that there are no photos anywhere on the Internet. When I attribute Large Cents, I use a photo and a book telling me what is different between each die variety or in some cases why something appears on one coin and not another such as a Cud. In this case, I do not know if Far Beads and Near Beads are two different die varieties or just one was struck with a thicker rim than the other for some reason. Maybe the die was polished heavily thus causing the effect. The difference is said to be only 0.2 MM, which is not much of a difference, but when you put them side by side, they sure do look different. There are many probabilities that would suggest that Far and Near Beads in all mint strike types is possible, but without photographic evidence or having one or all three in my hands, it makes it hard to believe at this point having seen no photos anywhere. I want to not only see it in a photograph for believing purposes, but also see it in a photo graph for attribution reference. As for as I know the Far variety looks slightly different in PL, SP, or PR. Maybe the difference is only 0.1 mm and not 0.2 mm for example. A dealer said to me that how do you know if it is Far Beads and Not Near Beads for sure? His point was if both varieties were not made from different dies, then you could have a Far Beads, Near Beads, and maybe even something in the middle. Rims on U.S. pennies often are struck with different thicknesses depending on the die used and the dies condition and how hard the coin is struck. A photo is the first step in identification. And if someone adds a diagnostic pointing out other differences, if there are any, then that would also help. Otherwise, all I can do is ask Dealers if they have Far beads in PL, SP, or PR, and if they send me one, check it between the two I have in MS (business strike). So far, all the dealers have sent me are incorrectly labelled Near Beads. But, I will keep searching. However, if someone has these, I wish they just post photos already and help us all out.

pasasap I have been doing some research on these 2 coins. the large bead is the near. the small bead is the far. I can tell you between the proof and the prooflike coins I have both. they are very different. the queen crown does match between prooflike and the proof. I dont want to take the proof like out of the holdiers. they are mounted in. I will put there images up as well. take a look at the crowns. you will see the difference.hope this helps you have a great one. if you find any thing different please share here . if I find anything different. I will add it here as well

SPP-Ottawa this is defently a mind puzzle. I have some images for you. I would like to here what you think. so does this mean big penny little penny. SPP-Ottawa could this mean. that there is another variety. being in the proof coins. according to Charlton catalogue. the 1983 penny should be 19.1 mm. here is these two coins sizes 18.78. the second coin is 18.69 mm.

pasasap yes but these are still near and far. they are at 2 different distance from the outside edge of the coin. what really fits well is large and small beads. I can see them in sp sets. when you contact the seller. they will tell you stock photo. I just purchased a near and far from a dealer in proof. they were no different than what I put up here. pasasap I have found and unlisted penny variety, from the earlier years. I just want to see if they break down into 4 types, right now I have 2 types. once I have them certified. I will post them here on the forum. have a great one.