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Found A 1972 Silver Washington Quarter...how To Authenticate/Grade

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I found a 1972 Washington quarter in a Coinstar machine and it is silver. I took it to my coin dealer (certified grader/dealer and in business over 30 years) he used a machine to authenticate the silver content....it is right at 90%. He told me to send it to get graded, but I saw a forum post on this site from 2009 with the same topic and it apparently was not graded....I cannot think of what I can do to get it authenticated further/graded. ANYTHING WILL HELP! Thank You
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Pictures and weight will help.

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It's a little light...5.8 grams


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It surprises me that a coin dealer tested it to be 90% silver . To me it looks like a cast reproduction .
See what the experts say .
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That was my first question...I asked him if it was fake and he said no, that it looked like it had been in the ground...
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Did the dealer offer to buy it from you? If not, then it is most likely a hoax. If it were, he would have a nice profitable coin to sell once coffinated. The weight tho precludes a silver planchet, way too light it is in range tho of something THREE YEARS IN THE FUTURE (uh, huh, right!) Kinda impossible doncha think?

I do agree with TBOP, that does look cast, color is off-gray, bubbling surfaces all over. Do a " tissue test" that tells visually if silver or clad. There are times a clad coin in the press will move the clad all the way up the sides. I would take a knife, cut a gouge in the reeding, see if copper color shows up

If no copper, by all means "send 'er in"...it's your dime (times 8,000). You willing to take that risk if it's not an off metal strike?
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H-m-m. Impossibly rare quarter is porous because it's been in the ground.



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yeah, that's why I came on here to post...don't really want to spend the money wasting my time, but I've been going to this guy since I was like 4 and since for the last almost 30 years and he told me he truly believed it wasn't a fake or counterfeit and that he believed it was a real strike even though it shouldn't exist.
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to respond to Crazyb0. there are a couple spots on the rim of clad coloring, but not really wanting to take a knife to it quite yet..will do when I find out 100% that it's fake. thanks for the comment
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At best it is silver plated. I wouldn't waste my time with it.
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Did the dealer weigh the coin ? Tell your dealer friend to do all tests in front of you . Tissue & magnet etc. Also try to take the coin to different coin shops or shows . However my gut feeling is it's a fake .
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You said a couple spots on rim of a copper color? There's your answer. Also, is the rim lighter in color than the sides? If so it could be plated on the rim. As I stated before tho, it is possible for one side of the clad to stretch further than normal and side appears all silvery, no copper shows, unusual, but not rare.

If it was 90% silver it would have to weigh 6.3 gr. Your weight is a clad coin or as I said, a silver planchet of the 1975-76 issues...they weren't even MADE YET!
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This is an 'impossible' coin and not an authentic silver example regardless of what your dealer of 30 years states.

There is no credible method for explaining how a 1964 planchet made its way into a 1972 mint die to create a 90% silver quarter - that simply did not happen and any wishful thinking will not change it.

However your 'coin' came to be ... it is not what you/dealer hope it is.
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The coin dealer I took the quarter to uses a Bruker XFR ( https://www.bruker.com/products/x-r...testing.html ). it is extremely accurate. The question is not whether it is 90% silver or not, it is what is it? I'm asking for insight. I don't think it's real, but I have had a reputable dealer tell me it was struck in a mint. I understand people, no matter how qualified, can be wrong. I am simply trying to start a discussion.
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Like I said , you need more than one professional Numismatic to test and authenticate your coin .
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