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Just wanted to confirm that this is a black beauty jefferson. Found it CRH a while ago. Thanks in advance, GC   |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Not sure on this on. I'm thinking that it's Environmentally Damaged, but we'll see what the other members think.
Errers and Varietys.
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Definitely an ED issue here in my opinion. Not a "black beauty", which is a spurious description to start with, again in my opinion.
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Post another image without so much glare.
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Rest in Peace
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It also appears to be in a Very Late Die State (VLDS) on both sides.
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I remain skeptical that these left the mint in this coveted appearance.
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Coinfrog, as TBOP said a while back, in the 60's he put up two rolls of these from 1959, all the same, he sent me the 1959 I have in my album, it is MS, and the same identical color as the 2- 1958's I came across in some very old nickel folders (Spruett has the other). I have seen those "played with" in chemistry class, did so myself in the 60's...those altered by heat tempering were blackened a dull grayish/black tinge, more a grey-scale, not the bluish/purple that I have witnessed on what I am assured of are the Official Black Beauty. Ya really have to see the difference in hand. I also was able to cherry-pick a NGC slabbed example, same color. The only way to really prove this is going to be a cored cut coin to determine just how affected the whole planchet was, and the actual trace metal content as compared to a normal nickel.  |
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I would say with autmost certainty that your Nickle is not a Black Beauty .  |
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For sure. Else, I accept Crazy's scholarly input but feel that this subject is a minefield that lacks any sort of definable and acceptable parameters.
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Unfortunately, the definable and acceptable parameters being established would require very sophisticated testing for elemental composition (costly, if even available) and then destruction of any potential example. So, you see the conundrum. As far as OP's coin, I cannot tell anything because there is no contrast or comparison. Maybe pics aside a normal nickel of the same year would help. This one obviously has circulation wear, so it's important that no normal silvery color show through anywhere on the coin. That's why having an alleged example with full mint luster is important. Artificial methods for creating the external color also affect the luster negatively. I'm not Crazyb0, but I may just be crazy enough to cut mine in half to see exactly what the center looks like. That would add a step in solving this.  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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