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1939 S Mercury Dime Crack Die?

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 Posted 07/18/2008  12:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Andrey81 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers


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 Posted 07/18/2008  12:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's interesting Andrey. They don't look like cracks. They look like die dents or some other form of die damage. Let's see what Mike Diamond says about this one.
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 Posted 07/18/2008  12:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's pretty cool...it's obviously raised on the coin, so it must have come from the die. It looks too localized to be a lamination defect to me.
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 Posted 07/18/2008  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe those are die gouges, not die cracks / not lamination. Pretty significant - makes you wonder how they occurred.
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 Posted 07/18/2008  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

The first thing that jumps out at me on this coin and another dime that was posted is that someone is harshly cleaning them. The hairline scratches caused by the cleaning is killing whatever value these may have even if they turn out to be errors.

On this coin, without seeing a better picture that shows some depth, I am leaning toward the possibility of a damage of some sort. Look at the rim ding above the R. It is pretty coincidental that whatever that is on the surface of the coin is close to the spot where the rim was damaged.

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 Posted 07/18/2008  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seattleMD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bill, what kind of post-strike damage would cause raised lines like that in the metal? Interesting that it doesn't go through the lettering though - makes you think it was possibly pre-strike damage to the planchet? Or perhaps some rolled in scraps of metal on the coin blank?
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I think images of the Obverse would help on both coins. I've never seen marks like this one has before on coins. It is raised like die damage, but I wonder what from the mint would cause this?
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 Posted 07/18/2008  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coindexter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks as if it was bent and then bent back?
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 Posted 07/19/2008  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to say. They may be die dents. Then again they may be incipient lamination errors that have not yet split. Or they could be gas bubbles beneath the surface. I can't rule out post-strike damage because the "US" of PLURIBUS is flattened, and these letters lie right in the path of the defects.
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