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2009 P LMC PL Bicentennial. DDO And DDR. This One Will Be Sent Off.

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I found this 2009 LMC PL Bicentennial cent and it is different from the WDDO-005. On Mr. Wexler's site it shows notching in the upper left hand corners in the word LIBERTY, which this one does. It also shows doubling on the first two digits on the date, the one I found shows doubling on all four digits. On the reverse the top three windows on the second floor appear to have some type of doubling under the window sills. it is more apparent under the second from the left. The fourth pic was borrowed from Mr. Wexler's site. Thoughts?
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I don't see anything on the windows or date, but LIBERTY does look good.
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Wexler's site list hub doubling on a different area of the reverse:
http://www.doubleddie.com/154201.html
WDDR-001

But there is also Some Working hub issues also on that series:
009 1¢ PW WWHR-001
009 1¢ PW WWHR-002

But neither area matches what you have. So a closer and wider view might be a help to see what area is affected. The target areas on the DDRs for this series is more in the center of the designs.
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Jim, you definitely have a DDO for sure. The date is showing elongation on the 200 of the date. I;m also pretty sure, that you have a DDR as well.
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Thanks Condor, Coop and David! I think I do too David. There someone a whole lot smarter than I am who's gonna make that call.
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Definitely a DDO on the date and LIBERTY, it's very similar to the photo you included from Wexler.

I'm having trouble seeing the DDR, however.
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Definitely DDO, Tanman, my pics aren't the best and it does look different with cent in hand. I am going to send it off for the just in case.
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Send it off where? Typically the major TPG's will only identify varieties that are already on their "approved" list of varieties. So a new variety typically won't be identified as such. If it is new and you are wanting it identified as such by a TPG you should get confirmation from Wexler or some other expert first and include a copy with the submission.
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Condor, I'll send it to Mr. Wexler for attribution first, if it's only determined to be a DDO and not a DDO-DDR the I will just put it in a 2x2. If it is a DDO-DDR then I will send it to a TPG. I have a new listing on a 2009 D WDDO-002 and when I get the results back on a couple of more cents then I will send either all or just the 2009 D WDDO-002 to a TPG with the appropriate paperwork.
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Confer101, Jim is going to send it off to John A. Wexler for attribution (the person responsible for running the website doubleddie.com). John Wexler is a die variety expert, and you can send suspected Doubled Dies to him, for a small fee.
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Good, too many people just send new or potentially new varieties off to the TPG's and don't understand or get up set when they come back as just normal coins.
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Good, too many people just send new or potentially new varieties off to the TPG's and don't understand or get up set when they come back as just normal coins.


Good point there Conder101. It does happen way too much I've noticed.
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Condor101, I've been blessed to have people like yourself help me to learn how do do things the right way. Have it attributed and if it's worth sending to a TOG, send it.
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Wow..Nice find...I have trouble to look in to these 1990's up to date those letters or number to recognize DD. Now I see another nice example.
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Thank you Bate!
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Looks close to the target area for a DDR:
2009-P-LMC-PL-Bicentennial.-DDO-And-DDR.-This-One-Will-Be-Sent-Off.
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