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1885 Clash Cracked Dies *vam 9e Thank You Guys*

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A lightly noticeable clash, lots of die cracks all around the coin and in the bust and around the eagle. Pretty interesting.

Obverse
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Reverse
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1 in date
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These are cracks going up the bust
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1885-Clash-Cracked-Dies-*vam-9e-Thank-You-Guys*
The reverse
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11/02/2018 8:21 pm
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 Posted 11/02/2018  08:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see any clash but some of the die cracks are obvious even before you you did the closeups.
Using die cracks for attribution purposes is generally limited to identifying die varieties (or VAM's in the case of Morgans).
And also to die states.
Sometimes there are so many different coins of a specific year with various die cracks they aren't even mentioned.

I like die cracks; gives a coin a personality.
Interesting coin.
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11/02/2018 08:53 am
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Check out VAM 9 D2 http://ec2-13-58-222-16.us-east-2.c...85_P_VAM-9D2 ,and see what You think.
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11/02/2018 11:47 am
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This is the VAM 9E die pair. As far as I know, there is no official listing for " VAM 9D2," so this should not be used. The specifications for VAM 9E include a die clash at the neck, which is probably there, possibly very weak. The clash is by far the least interesting thing on the coin, however. In addition to the cracks at the date being atypical, there are also raised rings on the rear part of the Phrygian cap. Current thinking is that these are moisture droplets that were present when the die was hubbed.
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At first I thought to be the 9E,but I couldn't see the crack to the hair above the forehead on the 9E plate coin,but I could on the 9D2,so that is why I changed it.
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Oh yes that definitely looks like VAM 9E thank you guys. This VAM is pretty interesting
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