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1sikevo Pillar of the Community United States 1130 Posts	Posted 07/23/2008 12:43 pm This is being auctioned on ebay as a proof but I don't see it on Greysheet. Quote: This is a RARE 1884 Morgan dollar "PROOF" in NEAR GEM BU!! There ONLY 875 minted and this one is NICE NICE. This proof coin is Well Struck with RAZOR Sharp devices that show great separation. The surfaces of the coin has a Deep Reflectivity. This is a great opportunity to add a GORGEOUS Morgan dollar Proof to your collection! Report this Post to the Staff

Prethen Pillar of the Community United States 3234 Posts	Posted 07/23/2008 1:40 pm I would be very suspicious. If it's "good" why the heck is it not slabbed? Early Proofs really deserve slabs as much as I hate to admit it. Report this Post to the Staff
SsuperDdave Moderator United States 23522 Posts	Posted 07/23/2008 3:24 pm A Proof in "near gem Brilliant Uncirculated?" That's encouraging. I will say, the slightly-displaced 4 in the date is characteristic of that year's Proof. Report this Post to the Staff
Amazon99 Pillar of the Community United States 2443 Posts	Posted 07/23/2008 6:06 pm If it is a proof then it's probably an impaired proof. I'm guess that's from the ebay seller Southern coins or something like that. Their photos are also enhanced and often way too much. Report this Post to the Staff
NGiles Pillar of the Community United States 527 Posts	Posted 07/24/2008 12:41 am This photo has been doctored. You can see the symetrical blotches behind her hair that have been cropped and pasted. The lighting has been directed to add shadows to that area as well. I just watched a show on the discovery channel about how to detect doctored photos. it was very helpful. Report this Post to the Staff
Amazon99 Pillar of the Community United States 2443 Posts	Posted 07/24/2008 12:46 am Ngiles, what was that show called? It sounds interesting. Report this Post to the Staff
Blue Diamond Gold Exchange Valued Member United States 97 Posts	Posted 07/28/2008 03:34 am Proofs do not look anything like that. I tried to put a picture of a nice Morgan proof here, but must have done something wrong. If someone can instruct me I will put up a nice photo. Report this Post to the Staff
NGiles Pillar of the Community United States 527 Posts	Posted 08/04/2008 10:09 pm Sorry Amazon99, I have been gone for awhile, my wife has been in the hospital for a couple of weeks. I didn't see the name of the show, I just caught the tail end of it. I wish I could get it on DVD, if it comes on again I will post the name. Discovery channel is notorious for replaying things several times, I hope I catch it. Report this Post to the Staff
Blue Diamond Gold Exchange Valued Member United States 97 Posts	Posted 08/30/2008 2:46 pm OK, I have figured it out! Here is a nice looking proof Morgan which we had a few weeks ago: Image: PF651896MD.jpg 83.67 KB Report this Post to the Staff
wwhitman Pillar of the Community United States 1415 Posts	Posted 08/30/2008 5:10 pm In my Krause it's around $5900! Big bucks. But I am not nearly an expert on grading - so I do not know if it is what they say. You bidden? Report this Post to the Staff
Blue Diamond Gold Exchange Valued Member United States 97 Posts	Posted 08/30/2008 5:39 pm Grey sheet is bid $6450 ask $7000. All I can say is we sold it (to another dealer, by the way) somewhere in between. My main point is that the look of a proof is very unlike that first coin pictured, which looks like it was plated or dipped or I don't know what... Report this Post to the Staff
wwhitman Pillar of the Community United States 1415 Posts	Posted 08/31/2008 09:25 am I think these may be, pretty sure, possibly be reproductions I would be very suspicious of such a rare coin being auctioned off here. I would think Heritage would be the place to go Report this Post to the Staff
bqcoins Valued Member United States 167 Posts	Posted 08/31/2008 09:57 am It thats a proof coin then it has the look that it might be cleaned, cleaned, cleaned. I don't like the look at all. Report this Post to the Staff
jerryb Valued Member United States 61 Posts	Posted 09/03/2008 2:28 pm Hi y'all... I have certified 3-4 proof Morgans and this coin looks very very suspicious. Most, but not all, proof Morgans have minor to heavy cameo. This coins looks cast, polished and/or Made in China. I handled, as a third party, a '94 PF69 NGC Ultra Cameo 2-3 years ago and it was a major highlight of my 54 year coin buy/sell trading to date. Coin sold for $120K at the time. Absolute beauty Gem. Report this Post to the Staff
1sikevo Pillar of the Community United States 1130 Posts	Posted 09/03/2008 4:35 pm Wonder if "proof-like" is being marketed as proof in this case. I would like to add a true proof Morgan and a MS65+ DMPL in my collection someday. Report this Post to the Staff
eaglefoot Pillar of the Community United States 6326 Posts	Posted 09/03/2008 4:57 pm Quote: This coins looks cast, polished and/or Made in China The more I read.......the more I feared.......CHINA !!... Quote: I would like to add a true proof Morgan and a MS65+ DMPL in my collection someday. .......me too !.......but "affordability" will likely prevent me !.... Report this Post to the Staff
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