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Trajan, AR Denarius, 101-102, Rome - Authentic?

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I'm trying to determine if this coin is authentic. At 3.1grams and 16-7 mm, it has the same weight but is a bit smaller than the one shown 14 items down on this page from BeastCoins. The item with the blue background.
BeastCoin Image closeup here.

It doesn't look terribly convincing, but it sounds similar to my metal detector relative to similar sized romans. The writing seems to be rotated a bit relative to the linked coin.

Trajan,-AR-Denarius,-101-102,-Rome---Authentic?
Trajan,-AR-Denarius,-101-102,-Rome---Authentic?

A closeup of the P at 7 o'clock on the obverse shows this pattern in the field.
Trajan,-AR-Denarius,-101-102,-Rome---Authentic?

Thoughts?

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I don't see any problems with it.
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@jadey, can you please post a couple pics of the edge of this coin? While a dendritic structure can occur in struck coins, it is much more common in castings. See, for example these previous CCF posts:

http://goccf.com/t/312527
http://goccf.com/t/331942
http://goccf.com/t/283975
http://goccf.com/t/208997

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I took a picture of the thickest and most interesting edge of the coin. What exactly are we looking for?

Trajan,-AR-Denarius,-101-102,-Rome---Authentic?
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@Spence
Thanks for the links to other topics discussing the dentric surfaces. It sounds like it can occur on ancient coins, but can be a sign of counterfeit casting as well. Unfortunately, I'm not sure what conclusion to draw from those discussions otherwise.
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What exactly are we looking for?


You are looking for a parting line or evidence that a parting line has been ground off. In the one view that you have supplied, I don't see either of these. That is a good thing, but you should check the entire edge.

Can you please supply a little information about the provenance of this coin? If you already bought it, then where did it come from? Buying from a trusted dealer is of course not a guarantee of authenticity, but is at least a good start. Can you trace back multiple sales of this piece? Perhaps it was for sale by a big auction house at some point? Again, it isn't a guarantee, but if it has been sold multiple times as being real (and therefore fooled multiple people), that might be an indicator of what you have.
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