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Captain Isaac Hull Naval Medal

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Command of USS Constitution


I don't know much about these medals, but I am questioning it's authenticity...It is 65mm and is a heavy 175grams. I would be interested in any other thoughts and opinions.

Isaac Hull assumed command of the frigate USS Constitution in June 1810; his time on the ship was eventful. As commanding officer Hull "modeled himself on Silas Talbot", his mentor and a former commander of USS Constitution. Hull "among the enlisted men, he now commanded, on her maiden voyage was perhaps,the most popular captain in the service. He was also, perhaps the greatest all-round seaman in the navy with a genius for ship-handling and navigation that would serve him well in the weeks to come." On Constitution he was very much at home; it was his "favorite frigate". Writing to his sister in-law Mary Wheeler, he exclaimed, "I now have one of the best ships in our Navy ..." Like Silas Talbot, Hull took great care in the training of his young officers by seeing to their comforts and their education. Like Talbot too Hull trained his enlisted men many of whom had never served on a ship of war before especially in gunnery. He "exercised the men at the great guns up to two hours daily over several weeks to infuse them with confidence and competence to face the enemy in battle." Hull discouraged flogging and found the practice abhorrent for trivial offenses. He prohibited his officers from punishing seamen or marines in his absence. Hull gave direction that the punishment for missing muster or any trifling offense "shall not exceed three lashes with a small rope over the shirt." The typical penalty of the era was eight to ten on the bare back. Hull did authorize flogging for more serious offenses for example on "12 August 1812 John W. Smith and John Smith were each given a dozen lashes for drunkenness and the latter for insolence." He took the vessel on a European cruise in 1811-1812, returning home before the War of 1812 broke out between the United States and Great Britain. Constitution left Chesapeake Bay in July 1812.
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That's interesting background, thanks.

I have no idea whether this is genuine, but hoping others will. What do you believe it is made of?
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I'm really not sure what this medal is made of. I know that some of these medals were in bronze, bronzed copper & were also lighter in weight. Wondering if this may be trial strike?
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Thanks! I'm still hopeful someone will have some additional info about this medal.
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