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New Member
United States
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Hey I am new t this coin thing but I have this coin and here r the specs:
Face Side:
L. Napoleon III Emperor. He is also bareheaded.
Flip side:
"ELU EMPERE**PARLE LE PEUPLE 1852 NOV 21 ** 22 DU VOTE
*-means I can not make out what the letter is.
I would like to how what this coin is worth. I am just wondering because it is one of the oldest in my collection.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sounds more like a medal/commemorative than a coin--especially if there's no denomination value.
From a historical website:
The constitution forbade the reelection of the president after expiration of his four-year term, and when Louis-Napoleon realized that he could not obtain the three-fourths majority necessary for a revision of the constitution he carried out a coup d'etat on December 2. Only the Republicans dared to resist him. On December 4 they were defeated in street fighting in Paris, just as they were in other towns and in some regions. Arrests and deportations numbered in the thousands. Louis-Napoleon dissolved the Legislative Assembly and decreed a new constitution, which among other provisions restored universal suffrage. A plebiscite approved the new constitution. Encouraged by his success, he held another plebiscite in November 1852 and was confirmed as emperor after the resolution of the Senate concerning the restitution of the empire.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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G'day, French coins have consistently carried their denomination since 1800.
The French have been very fond of making beautiful commemorative medallions.
It sounds like you have the latter.
And HaBiB has identified an occasion worthy of such commemoration: interesting times !
Peter in Oz
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New Member
 United States
8 Posts |
So is it a medal or a coin? And if it is a medal how much would that be worth?
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New Member
United States
8 Posts |
Here are some images of this Medallion. I looks like it may not be worth much but it is still an interesting find in my view.   Sorry for the rather poor quality. I took these pictures in haste with my web cam. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Can't make out "heads or tails" from that pic !.....(sorry for the pun!)
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Germany
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Will be a medal, not a coin. I cannot see much either, but that should be Napoleon III on one side and an eagle on the other side. This could be your piece, see http://preview.tinyurl.com/6hejoa (no image though). 105. - Second empire Medaille, cuivre, Ø 35 mm, belière limee A/ Effigie de Napoleon III, tête nue, à gauche : L. Napoleon III, empereur. R/ Aigle imperial : Elu empereur par le peuple français. Vote du 21 et 22 nov. 1852. Graveur : A/ A. Garnier, signature. R/ Non signe. Ref : Collignon, n° 69 de la serie parisienne de 1852. Christian |
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New Member
United States
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I will see if I can provide a better picture once I fix my digital camera. But I have had no luck finding this picture, or this medal, on the internet. It doesn't even show up on web sites that claim they have all of the Napoleonic medals. Either way this is a great historical piece I just want to know what it is!
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New Member
United States
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I took alook at the medal for a second time and as Christian said this is the medal:
105. - Second empire
Medaille, cuivre, Ø 35 mm, belière limee
A/ Effigie de Napoleon III, tête nue, à gauche : L. Napoleon III, empereur.
R/ Aigle imperial : Elu empereur par le peuple français. Vote du 21 et 22 nov. 1852.
Graveur : A/ A. Garnier, signature. R/ Non signe.
Ref : Collignon, n° 69 de la serie parisienne de 1852.
All the specs above match up perfectly with this medal.So where do we go from here?
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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quote: "... all of the Napoleonic medals"
- a lot of people use the word "Napoleonic" to refer to the First Emperor Napoleon, and do not embrace the much later Second Empire of Napoleon III.
Of course, not everyone agrees with that.
In fact, these eras can be quite tricky for the new student.
Peter
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Germany
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Cannot say anything about the possible value of such a medal (except for the usual "don't expect much" ...) but the "Ref : Collignon" means it is listed in the Collignon catalog. Should be this one:
Jean-Pierre Collignon, La Medaille Française au XIXe Siècle et l'Histoire (1989)
Christian
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New Member
United States
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Where can I get a hold of such a catalog? Would my local library have it?
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