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1911 Half Eagle - "New In Box" - Opinions Of Grading Please?

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 Posted 12/28/2018  9:47 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add LDempsey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi Guys - I have no previous experience in coins, but have had this one passed on to me by my Mom, who inherited it in 1948. Trying to educate myself and would appreciate any comments on it - grading, value, etc..

** My mother's aunt received it for service of some sort in 1911 when she resided in Boston MA.

First... I'm trying to identify whether it may be possibly be a proof or not. From what I can find online (PGCS etc.), the proofs had a "matte" finish, but couldn't find a way to positively identify other than that. I believe this coin has never been in circulation, but it appears to be rather dull with a rough finish rather than shiny gold. Not sure if this is considered a "matte" finish or not...?

Second... Assuming it's NOT a proof, (what are the chances), and this is the color/texture that they were "as new" - this coin looks to be in much better shape than the "MS66" example I saw on the PCGS site. Obviously there must be much more that goes into a grade than how it looks, but... I think this coin has been in this box since 1911.

Here's a few pics - sorry best resolution I could get with my cell phone - hopefully gives an idea.

Thanks
Len



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Sharper images will help.

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Tough to grade from those pictures. There appears to be wear, or rub, on the Eagles upper left shoulder feathers. The rub just might be from movement in the box the past 107 years.

Might as well send it in for grading if you wanna find out for sure. You could send it to ANACS for a quick and reasonably priced grading. If it comes back something it's probably not (proof or Ms66) you can then send it in for a crossover at either PCGS or NGC.

Good luck!
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 Posted 12/28/2018  10:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LDempsey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes... I apologize for the pics. The coin is in a safe deposit box in Halifax, I was there a few weeks ago to get some things sorted out. Back on the West Coast now, won't get back out until the spring to take some better ones.
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Thanks for the advice westernsky - I may send it to ANACS then once I get back out there, and at least I'll get some proper high detail pics. I have no intention to sell it since it's been in the family forever, but I would like to know whether it's worth $50 or $5000 or whatever. My Mom used to talk about "Aunt Jane's gold piece" when I was a little kid, but I thought for years it was lost. My folks had very little when we were growing up, but she never sold it to make ends meet... it's been in that safe deposit box since the 70's. :-)
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Its worth $600 at the least, mostly from gold value. Of course the higher it grades the higher the value.
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Interesting story, pics difficult to grade from. Good luck!



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Hard to grade from these photos so will wait to see if you can post some that are larger and clearer.
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based on these photos does not appear to be a proof, in fact, the coin does not appear to be MS. looks AU55 or maybe AU58. need better photos to determine
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Might as well send it in for grading if you wanna find out for sure. You could send it to ANACS for a quick and reasonably priced grading. If it comes back something it's probably not (proof or Ms66) you can then send it in for a crossover at either PCGS or NGC.


Only PCGS coins are eligible for crossover at NGC.

Personally ANACS is the last place I would send anything. If you want cheap authentication that is quick send it to ICG, especially if you aren't going to ever sell it. The ANACS slab is the worst by far of the accepted TPGs, the ICG one is much sturdier and will protect it better than the ANACS one.


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Its worth $600 at the least, mostly from gold value.


Melt value for a 5 dollar Indian is just slightly over $300
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Melt value for a 5 dollar Indian is just slightly over $300


True but I figurerd it's at least XF-40 which is where I drew the price.
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 Posted 12/30/2018  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LDempsey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks very much guys - really appreciate all the feedback. I think I'll try to get better pics and repost when I see it again in the spring/summer. Curious to know what it's worth but it doesn't really matter. I almost hope it's on the lower end... the more it's worth, the harder it will be to choose a grandchild to give it to one day - lol.
Hope everyone is having wonderful holidays, and thanks again for the info. :-)
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