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I have a question. what makes a coin modern vs classic?
In my opinion the Fanklin half sould be a classic.
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This doesn't answer your question, but I definitely think of the Roosevelt dime as modern and that is 12 years older than the Franklin half. |
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Every coin ever minted was, at one point, modern. I believe the arbitrary line was drawn between the switch from Liberty or an idealized Native American to the portrait of a dead president or politician. If Kennedy wasn't assasinated in 1963, Franklin halves probably would still be in production today. That said, I could get behind moving the definition of "classic" to include any coin made before 1965. |
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That demarcation (allegorical figures vs dead presidents... plus Ben) makes sense to me.
Other than cents, it sets the beginning of the "modern" types close to WWII (1939, 1946, 1932, 1948 for the nickel, dime, quarter and half respectively), which feels right.
Edited by tdziemia
01/03/2019 4:00 pm
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We have had this conversation a few times before. As for CCF and how we separate the US forums: Classics have the Allegorical/Liberty, Moderns have dead people.  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Well Jbuck I think that somes it up . thanks
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Hay wait a minute Jbuck so when the Franklin half is 100 years old it will still be a modern? along with the IKE? |
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Yup. As long as the Lincoln Cent is being made or we finally get new obverse subjects. A return to Liberty, perhaps.  |
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Everything is relative, all US coins are moderns compared to ancients, but as far as US coins go the composition change in 1965 is a better line for it. Even that is getting close to pushing it for where moderns start though considering that was now a half century ago. Franklins really aren't moderns anymore. Most of the planet wasn't even born the last time they were issued. As far as the others Jeffersons/Lincolns/Roosevelts, there are moderns in the series runs but they are not all moderns especially for Lincolns. Any other hobby and we would be calling things vintage or antique that came from the 1900s-1960s but in coins just because the series is still going they somehow get labeled as modern. For PCGS submissions though I wish they were all considered modern |
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Quote:so when the Franklin half is 100 years old it will still be a modern? along with the IKE? When the U.S. ceases issuing coins altogether later this century, they will all become Classic. (yes, I know there was another thread devoted to that question, and I'm not trying to re-start it here ... just trying to "one-up" that comment on the Franklin) Edited by tdziemia
01/04/2019 11:21 am
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When the U.S. ceases issuing coins altogether later this century, they will all become Classic. Truth. Quote:
yes, I know there was another thread devoted to that question, and I'm not trying to re-start it here ... just trying to "one-up" that comment on the Franklin  |
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Classics have the Allegorical/Liberty, Moderns have dead people. However, aren't most of the things like Liberty posed by Dead people too? Are dead animals included such as the Eagle posed for the Flying Eagle cent? |
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I would go broader: designs currently minted are moderns, those that aren't are classics. Coins like Franklins and Ikes are modern classics.
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Quote:However, aren't most of the things like Liberty posed by Dead people too? Are dead animals included such as the Eagle posed for the Flying Eagle cent? Models do not count. They are not real people.  Quote:
I would go broader: designs currently minted are moderns... I personally call those ultra-modern. |
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