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Significance Of X Scratched On Larger Silver?

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I've been doing a fair bit of browsing for early halves and Morgan/Peace dollars lately, and I've encountered a surprising number of coins with crude X marks scratched into the fields, particularly on the early halves.

Does anyone know of any significance to this? I've seen initials (scratched and nicely engraved), and those make sense, but the X is far more common.

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I saw a bust half with a big X the other day--do you suppose they were checking silver content?
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My grandfather used to say it was someone just being mean so he couldn't put it in his collection, most of them are really nice AU coins and are ruined by the X on the coin. He would say a collector had them and had to spend the collection (probably for face value since then those coins were in circulation) and thought if he wasn't going to have the coin in his collection no one else was either
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...if he wasn't going to have the coin in his collection no one else was either

Now that's just not nice.
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Interesting - I have a 1908-O Barber quarter, probably in Fine condition EXCEPT for an "X" across the face of the obverse AND a hole at the top. Luckily, I don't recall spending anything for it - I vaguely remember trading another coin for it, maybe a nickel that had been flattened on a railroad track.
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Interesting. I had always just assumed that it was the equivalent to marking paper money.
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I once came across a Morgan that had the date obliterated with some sort of power tool--and the same sort of damage on the reverse.

At first I just assumed it was "vandalism" but upon further reflection I think that coin had been tampered with (date altered) and when someone discovered that, they obliterated the date and thus rendered the coin's worth to "junk".

Perhaps these coins with an 'X' on them have been damaged by people who knew the coin had been tampered with and are actually protecting unsuspecting collectors.

<shrug>
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Well for one thing an X is about the simplest "mark" to make.


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I once came across a Morgan that had the date obliterated with some sort of power tool--and the same sort of damage on the reverse.

At first I just assumed it was "vandalism"

Your firt guess was quite possibly correct. back in the early 1960's as the silver dollars were disappearing from circulation and the banks, the casnos in Nevada attempted to stop people from walkin off with silver dollars by grinding off the dates. they thought that without dates they would not be of interest to collectors or as souviners. They totally overlooked the fact that the metal in them was worth more than the coin was.
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Egads. You're kidding.

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My grandfather used to say it was someone just being mean so he couldn't put it in his collection


.....that's how I feel !...(except if it's silver, I'll still accept it)

And also......it could be.......THAT X MARKS THE SPOT !....
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Damaged coins, no matter their rarity, have no place in my collection. I used to have a few but they bothered me too much. When you have one like that in your collection, guess how fast your eye will go to that damaged spot?! Now, imagine showing off your collection to a layperson...what do you think they'll notice first (after the "strange" designs)?
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Honestly it is just amazing how many coins are vandalized for no apparent reason. I actually have a nice 1816 large cent in F that has most of the date scratched off. All I can see is part of the last two numbers of the date.
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That is weird, because I also have a circulated morgan that has an X on it.
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maybe a really mad, soon to be ex wife?
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maybe a really mad, soon to be ex wife?


You may be closer than you think. I just heard a story at a local coin/stamp shop regarding a recent widow from the Detroit area who took her newly departed husband's collection into a dealer. She was informed that she had spent her life in a tiny dilapidated home so her husband could amass a $100,000+ stamp collection. She burned it. While this story may be apocryphal, who could not understand the rage behind it. And, as you know, coins don't burn as easily as stamps.
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