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Fake Slabs And Chinese Fake US Coins

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 Posted 01/08/2019  6:53 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My main concern in this thread is fake slabs.

A brief search of the CCF by myself has failed to find much information on how to diagnose or otherwise detect a fake slab.

What things should one look for, when examining a posted picture on screen?
What tests can be applied - for example weight and thickness?

What extra security is provided by the use of beans, and can these also be faked?

A fake slab can be used to prevent a suspect coin from being tested properly, unless the slab is broken. That can be a problem, if the fake slab is a very deceiving one, and the suspect coin inside remains untested.

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 Posted 01/09/2019  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add eternallogan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First off, I would avoid buying coins, slabbed or not, out of China. As that seems to be where the majority of the fakes are coming from.
Beyond that, the major TPGs have certification numbers that can be looked up, whereupon you can carefully compare the coin in question to the real one if the certification number itself is fake (unlikely).
The reasons to fake a slab would be to: 1. falsely authenticate a fake coin, or to B. falsely grade/designate/attribute a real coin. In either case, as the veteran members would tell you and as you probably already know, inspect and grade the coin, not the slab first and foremost. If you are suspicious, move on or ask the CoinCommunity for input.
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https://www.PCGS.com/holders

PCGS has that site that talks about their various holders.

As far as what to look for the first thing is see if there's a picture. Check the cert number if you're suspicious. PCGS and NGC will have pictures of some on their site and PCGS is pretty good about linking past sales to Heritage or Legend ect if the coin had sold at one of those venues where the pictures would be.

Weight and dimensions are completely worthless for checking the slab itself. What you want to look for is the small details. The label alignment, fonts, holograms ect.

CAC does provide extra assurance, that would be something else they would have to fake and another database to check against ect.

Then of course the coin itself. Does it look right, too good to be true ect.

One thing to remember is the manufacturers generally sell these things cheap. It's the middle men trying to make huge profits and get their full numismatic value. Do they exist yes, if it something to be aware of yes, but it's not something to lose sleep over.

If someone is super concerned and wants to be as safe as possible stick to the new PCGS gold shield slabs as the TrueView pictures are to good to be able to fool with a fake slab. You would have to match the coin in the slab exactly.
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