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ID Help Please.. Roman Coin And Another Weird Coin

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Hello, the first Cesar heads coin is much thinner than the unclear coin, I can tell it is bronze. but for the second one it looks reddish sometimes.
found em in the same middle eastern city, but in different locations.

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Thanks echizento :)

i hope someone can tell which Cesar is this at least.. I know it is an (As) but I can't find a similar coin anywhere.
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I'm no expert, but based on the heads on the first coin I would say (?):

CAIUS CAESAR, adopted son and intended heir of Augustus, son of Agrippa and Julia

"CHOICE RARE PORTRAIT BRONZE OF GAIUS (CAIUS) CAESAR. MACEDON, Thessalonic. Augustus, with Caius Caesar. 27 BC-AD 14. AE 20mm (8.07 g). Struck circa AD 1-4. (TH)ESSALONIKEWN; Laureate head of Augustus right / GAIOS SEBASTOU YIOS; Bare head of Caius Caesar right. RPC 1564; Touratsoglou Em. X, - (V47/R132). EF and one of the finest known examples. Gaius or Caius Caesar was the son of Agrippa, and grandson of Augustus. Choice portrait of a rarely seen Roman caesar."

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Anyone?

Second one: No idea.
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The coin is definitely in a BC date.. arround 20 ~ 30 BC

MetzKaj.. that was so close dear..

can anybody instruct me how to clean the other rusty side, to make a visible clear face. I think this coin is really RARE one
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I believe I can see "PAI" on the reverse of coin one, and perhaps even "PAI BO" - so maybe "TPAI BOC" of an issue of Marcus Aurelius from Bostra (Syria) with a Tyche reverse?

http://coinproject.com/coin_detail.php?coin=312443
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I agree with Bob, a coin from Bosra. The town was the capital of Ancient Arabia and suffered little damage in the recent civil war; it has one of the largest theatres of the old Roman Empire. The theatre suffered one direct hit by a rebel shell that struck the steps.

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For cleaning, the best option is to put it in olive oil and give it a brush with an old toothbrush ever week or so until it's clean.
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Thank you so much Bob. that was the best answer.
Thank you Ben for the advice i'll try it.

This thing is maybe relative to #2 coin, is it an earring or something or a coin ?!

same drawings seems to me

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This thing is maybe relative to #2 coin, is it an earring or something or a coin ?!


I suspect it's a coin. It may be too far gone to i.d. - I think the reverse (?) is hopeless. But the obverse (?) reminds me of a bird - perhaps a dove - in flight. Maybe an AE from Sikyon/Sicyon like those below? (Although with no interior monogram near the tail feathers) I don't know if the find spot makes that particular possibility unlikely.

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Thanks again Bob.. Thank you guys. this is the best ever community
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