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orfew Pillar of the Community Canada 1269 Posts	Posted 01/15/2019 8:14 pm I am very happy to acquire one of these. Until a few minutes ago I was unaware that this variant existed. My sincere thanks go out to a friend for sending me a pm telling me that this coin just appeared on the market and explaining what it is. The key to this coin is the reverse. The common variant has a modius with corn ears. The rare variant has poppies in between the corn ears. I love these variants with small differences, it makes the coins interesting to me. Please post your examples of coins with small differences that make a big difference. Vespasianus, 69-79 CE AR-Denar Rom, 77/78 n. Chr. 3.21 g Obv.: CAESAR VESPASIANVS AVG, Kopf mit Lorbeerkranz n. r. Rev.: IMP XIX, Modius mit Kornähren RIC 980 Ex: Kölner Münzkabinett Report this Post to the Staff

Kamnaskires Pillar of the Community United States 7066 Posts	Posted 01/15/2019 9:12 pm Congrats on acquiring the interesting variant, Andrew. Quote: Please post your examples of coins with small differences that make a big difference. Well, the "big difference" part might be an overstatement in the case of my coin below, but it is a variant at least. Here's a Sellwood 47.4 variant - and it's actually an ex-David Sellwood Collection coin. Normally this variety shows a small crescent between the palm branch and the seated king - it's missing here. Also, while the ΥΠ at lower left on the reverse is standard for this variety (it's an abbreviation for the Greek name for September), the "TI" at lower right is unique to the variant. I have no idea what it represents. Orodes II tetradrachm, 57-38 BC Sellwood 47.4 variant Report this Post to the Staff
orfew Pillar of the Community Canada 1269 Posts	Posted 01/15/2019 9:16 pm Wow Bob, that is a very interesting coin. I think these differences lead us to ask better numismatic questions. Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 01/16/2019 02:03 am It would be interesting to find out why the poppies were added. Report this Post to the Staff
Finn235 Pillar of the Community United States 6130 Posts	Posted 01/16/2019 10:45 am Nice grab! In the grand scheme of things, how rare is this coin? Looks like a worn die, so I assume that at least a few hundred / thousand were made? I'm sure that not many survived though! As for coins with small things that make a big difference... - This Caracalla denarius has a scrunched nose, which completes his scowl and IMO makes it one of the most lifelike and thus desirable coins for this emperor for my portrait collection. I have yet to see another portrait of him rendered so artfully, save for on aureii. - This Omkara denarius is the rare Om variant, but better yet, the Om is written in an undescribed (but not unpublished - Maheshwari had one example but failed to notice it) calligraphy variant. Rather than the canonical 3 shape, it twists like a backwards S. - This Malwa "Battle Scene" Gadhaiya is remarkable because while "crescent" eyes ad "comet" eyes are known, this has both . IF these are supposed to represent the eye and nostril, this coin could turn Maheshwari's entire lineage for the series on its head. - This "distinctive nose" type is rare in its own right, but better yet, it's the only one I have ever seen that has a moon... on the wrong side and upside down Report this Post to the Staff
orfew Pillar of the Community Canada 1269 Posts	Posted 01/16/2019 11:18 am Great examples @Finn235 I love the Caracalla. As for the rarity of the Vespasian my friend who is a Flavian devotee has estimated that this version makes up 5% of the issue. That is there are 20 regular versions to every poppy version minted. I am sure there are others around but there are no examples on acsearch with the poppies. Report this Post to the Staff
Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 01/16/2019 11:20 am The barbarians that took over Italy in the 5th century often issued coinage in the name of the eastern emperor. Rare examples of these coins keep the legend of the eastern emperor, but the bust sports a traditional barbarian mustache. The theory is that these coins are meant to depict the barbarian ruler.... Here is a coin that may depict Odoacer...not mine, but I have my eye out: Edited by Ben 01/16/2019 11:22 am Report this Post to the Staff
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