Help Identifying Medal/Coin - No Pic, But Description (Id: Likely Phillip II Tourist Fake)

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quantumkev New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 01/21/2019 8:59 pm Hello all. This is my first post, and I'm really hoping someone can help me out. I found a coin in a desk many years ago, it had a lot of special meaning to me, but I lost it. I have searched for the last 25 years to try to figure out what exactly it might have been, but I can find nothing else like it. I will try to describe as best I can. The coin - if it even was a coin, might have been some kind of medallion - was about the size of a US half dollar, perhaps just a bit bigger. It appeared to be bronze or maybe copper. The edges were rounded, not squared, and were smooth. On one side was the depiction of a horse with a rider, similar to images I have seen of ancient Greek coins. But I don't think the coin I had was ancient - it seemed newer. The rider on the front side appeared to be feminine perhaps. The horse, in the area where the heart might be, had a small cross in a circle. There were some characters on the coin, and I believe they were Hebrew. On the back side was another depiction of a rider on a horse, going in the opposite direction, and with a more masculine feel to it. I can't quite remember why I thought one side was more feminine and the other masculine, but I definitely remember that. And I clearly remember the characters appeared to be Hebrew - definitely not Greek or Roman. I realize this isn't a lot to go on. Not sure if it would help, but my ex-wife's grandfather a Scottish Rite Freemason, and so I thought it might have come from him. But I have not been able to find any information to back that up at all. I would very much like to have the coin back, and if I can't get the original, would love to at least see it again. If anyone can provide any information or guidance at all, I would be most grateful. Thank you. Edited by quantumkev 01/22/2019 12:01 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34397 Posts	Posted 01/21/2019 9:08 pm @QK, first welcome to CCF. Second, while that is a great description, finding tokens without pics is going to be pretty tough. I was able to find a Masonic charm that has vaguely Hebrew-looking characters (and is perhaps loosely based on a a Prutah). However, there are no horsemen as part of the design: https://jeweleureka.com/collections...pendant-d607 I'll keep looking, but this seems like a tough one without access to the exact characters. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
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quantumkev New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 01/22/2019 11:53 am Thank you all for the kind welcome. And Spence, I appreciate the link you posted. I knew it was a tough ask, being that there is no image at all, but I thought I would try. I guess it's possible the coin was a one-off, a custom made item, and that would explain the lack of information about it. I do think it probably had some relation to Masonic stuff, so perhaps it was associated with some super-secret ritual, or recognition, or...? Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16817 Posts	Posted 01/22/2019 5:33 pm From the description, my best guess is a "tourist copy" of an ancient Greek coin of Philip II of Macedonia; his coins have a horse and rider. I have seen several tourist copies of these coins with the horse-and-rider design on both sides. Here's an example from an earlier post. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
quantumkev New Member United States 3 Posts	Posted 01/22/2019 10:43 pm Sap, Thank you for the post. I checked out that coin, and it does look pretty similar. What I had may very well have been a tourist copy. I still feel it might have had something to do with Masonry though - just a gut feeling I guess. But with the info you provided, I think I will do some searching on those particular replicas to see what I can find. Thanks again! ~ QK Report this Post to the Staff
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