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I have no experience in sending coins for grading. I would prefer to use NGC but I'm not sure if the would give this a number grade or a details grade due to the off center strike and the rim issue on the reverse bottom. This token is Nj 555c 9b listed as an R9.
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The uncentering probably would not be a problem, looks like it was not struck using a close collar. I can't tell if that is damage at the bottom of the reverse or not.
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They almost look like Cuds? Plus, the pics seem to show cleaned surfaces.
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It is a Civil war token. Die irregularities are pretty common...I'm just not sure how NGC would judge a CWT.



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Plus, the pics seem to show cleaned surfaces.


How does it look cleaned?
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Does this piece have coin orientation of medal orientation?

Personally I would say that if that ISN'T damage at the bottom of the reverse then it should straight grade. (Even if it details, wouldn't it be better to have an R-9 coin guaranteed authentic? Just be darn sure of your attribution because the NGC guarantee doesn't cover attributions.)
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Does this piece have coin orientation of medal orientation?

Personally I would say that if that ISN'T damage at the bottom of the reverse then it should straight grade. (Even if it details, wouldn't it be better to have an R-9 coin guaranteed authentic? Just be darn sure of your attribution because the NGC guarantee doesn't cover attributions.)


Its considered a token. I acquired it through a very reputable token dealer and am very confidant of his attribution. Good point about having it authenticated regardless of grade. Thanks for the advice!
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I know it is a token, I was asking about the orientation of the dies to each other. In coin orientation the dies are upside down in relation to each other. In medal orientation they are both rightside up in relation to each other.
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I know it is a token, I was asking about the orientation of the dies to each other. In coin orientation the dies are upside down in relation to each other. In medal orientation they are both rightside up in relation to each other.



Duh....my apologies! Coin orientation. The reverse is a bit rotated to the 7 o'clock position.
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