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Valued Member
United States
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Hello everyone. I have some doubts about the authenticity of this piece and just wanted to get feedback from some of the experts on this forum. Before I give the reasoning behind my doubts, I want to see what folks think. Thanks in advance!  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Obviously a copy, they never made these in black and white. My only guesses to why this would be a stamped copy, is it doesn't look cast, but some details are mushy and some details look like the die was reworked. Small lettering looks mushy but the reverse "Ten Dollars", and the obverse head dress details look re worked. It's hard to tell without looking at it In hand. I'm not too sure on it's authenticity.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Don't know where to start. Does this represent the true color?  |
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Valued Member
United States
291 Posts |
Look on the edges to see if the coin has stars instead of ridges.
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Valued Member
United States
291 Posts |
Can't believe I can't find a single photo online of the side profile of a $10 Indian showing the raised stars?
I found two photos of the coins with ridged edges, which I assume are counterfeits, but none showing the raise stars. I thought everything was on the internet. Guess not.
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Valued Member
 United States
414 Posts |
Guys... this is a black and white picture of a gold coin.
usc, unfortunately I do not have the coin and this picture is all that's available to me.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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3 of NGC's top 50 counterfeits are $10 Indians. I would be suspicious. Black & white photo of a gold coin is all you can get? That is a red flag.
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Moderator
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Guys... this is a black and white picture of a gold coin.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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By looking at the rim, it appears that is medal alignment.
Should it not be coinage alignment?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Sorry, how can you tell that? |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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http://goccf.com/t/339236 look to here for the rims and it so happens to be a 1911 as well.....beware....Many of us were born at night, but it wasn't last night.
Edited by DoctorBurnzy
02/21/2019 7:06 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Thanks, but still don't understand how you could conclude this is medal alignment from these two B&W pics.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Features that look suspect
-There are details on the obverse that are too perfect. LIBERTY and the lower hair details over the headdress are impeccable...much more distinct than seen on business strikes, as if made with a mould.The 1911 proof hair detail is closer, but even the proofs are not as precisely detailed as your piece.
- RS in DOLLARS doesn't match authentic 1911 eagles.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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02/21/2019 7:49 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I don't see any home-run indicators of a fake although the area around the stars on the obverse is a bit odd. It is coin turn (see photo below.) It looks exactly like NGC's plate coin in terms of lettering and sharpness (the feathers on this one's headdress are actually weaker than on NGC's.) Beware, though, the lack of color photos is hiding something and it likely won't be something pretty. This is a fairly common date and it probably wouldn't cost much more money to pick up a slabbed example vs. a raw coin, allowing you to put your mind a bit more at ease.  Member ANA - EAC - TNA - SSDC - CCT #890 "Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." -- Louis D. Brandeis |
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