1971 D Ike, None Freindly Eagle On Proof Planchet?

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SilverStackerKid Pillar of the Community United States 6478 Posts	Posted 02/22/2019 10:16 pm Hey. I have this 1971 D Ike. It's not an FEV that was struck on a proof planchet. I believe that both FEV and none FEV Ike's were struck on Proof planchets. From the photos, does this look like one to you? Thank you all. Report this Post to the Staff

Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74481 Posts	Posted 02/22/2019 10:41 pm I don't kniw anything about these, but it's a very nice Ike though! Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 02/23/2019 08:36 am What discerns a proof planchet from a business strike planchet? John1 Report this Post to the Staff
SilverStackerKid Pillar of the Community United States 6478 Posts	Posted 02/23/2019 08:46 am Quote: What discerns a proof planchet from a business strike planchet? John1 The way they were processed. Stew responds to someone on the Ike forum asking about this variety. His explanation is really good. http://www.ikegroup.info/forum2/vie...c.php?t=1488 FEV Ike dollars were struck on Proof planchets sent to the Denver mint. Some coins struck on proof planchets were not the FEV variety. These are common and after comparing my coin to FEV Ike's, mine is a none FEV struck on a proof planchet sent to the Denver mint. Edited by SilverStackerKid 02/23/2019 09:02 am Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 02/23/2019 10:40 am I am trying to think this through,so help me out guys. If you take a planchet that was prepared to strike a proof coin and strike that "proof planchet" with a business strike set of dies,wouldn't that eliminate any sign of a "polished planchet" and make a business strike coin? A proof coin is made up of a special prepared planchet and proof dies. So a fresh set of business strike dies and a really nice strike will produce a PL business struck coin,no? I am probably way off base here so as Steve Martin would say,excuuuse meee John1 Report this Post to the Staff
SilverStackerKid Pillar of the Community United States 6478 Posts	Posted 02/23/2019 4:51 pm Quote: I am trying to think this through,so help me out guys. If you take a planchet that was prepared to strike a proof coin and strike that "proof planchet" with a business strike set of dies,wouldn't that eliminate any sign of a "polished planchet" and make a business strike coin? A proof coin is made up of a special prepared planchet and proof dies. So a fresh set of business strike dies and a really nice strike will produce a PL business struck coin,no? I am probably way off base here so as Steve Martin would say,excuuuse meee John1 Both the planchet and dies contribute to the way a proof and none proof coin look. A strong strike wouldn't remove the signs of being struck on a proof planchet. The planchet is what makes up the field of the coin, and will retain its surface and chatter marks. The field isn't struck into the coin to look a certain way so the blanks and dies have to be polished to come out with the proof look. That's why if you struck a proof coin with business strike dies, you'd see a difference on the surface of a coin. A business strike coin struck on Proof dies would give a different effect depending on the die state and how recently the dies had been polished. A PL business strike coin is struck from highly polished dies but don't have a DCAM effect because there wasn't a combination of highly polished dies and blanks. I'm not sure how to describe this though. I think the best way to explain it is that you can still see planchet chatter on struck coins. Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188836 Posts	Posted 02/24/2019 12:12 am I am still green when it comes to these, but Darth seems to know a good bit about them. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 02/24/2019 05:05 am I am still . So is it like the WAM and CAM on LMC's? John1 Report this Post to the Staff
SilverStackerKid Pillar of the Community United States 6478 Posts	Posted 02/24/2019 06:07 am If you're referring to the CAM and WAM being proof dies on business strike coins, then no they aren't the same in that way. The Ike and wam/cam cents are similar in that they are a runs of coins brought about from the mint doing something unusual. They are both known varieties, but the Ike isn't a wrongly used die, it's a wrongly used planchet. Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 02/24/2019 08:05 am Thanks much. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 188836 Posts	Posted 02/25/2019 10:53 am Quote: They are both known varieties, but the Ike isn't a wrongly used die, it's a wrongly used planchet. Correct. WAM/CAM is dependent on the die, whereas the Ike is dependent on the planchet. Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
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