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1916-S Lincoln Wheat Cent New Rim Cud - Au+

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This is an unlisted rim Cud I just submitted to JC for his consideration. Couldn't resist posting it as I really think it's a beautiful coin and the Cud just looks great right where it's at.


1916-S Lincoln Wheat cent - unlisted (submitted) rim Cud


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Beautiful Discovery Piece
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 Posted 02/19/2019  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Panther to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice find, nice coin.

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Very Nice.
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Good-looking coin!
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Wow, impressive, and a choice grade to boot!
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Beautiful cent, great find!
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Very nice coin. The Cud Looks almost like one of the little pieces that holds the coin in an NGC slab. Congrats!

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Thanks folks! It's just such a lovely coin and Cud that I had to share.
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Awesome find tropicalbats! I like it!
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I agree that is a beautiful penny with a nice Cud. Awesome!!
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I just noticed the reverse is a bit mad or is the whole thing offset?
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It may be a fin rather than a Cud.
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tropicalbats, Interesting example. I'm sure it will get a new listing (CU-1c-1916S-01 Rim Cud). Again I see one not listed and again I see die alignment involved. This time both dies.

Would you say the images are straight on or slightly skewed? Might double check the edge and diameter if straight on. Would you say the edge thickness exceeds 1.52mm? Just curious. Thanks, Doug.
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It is a rim Cud. How are rim Cuds formed?

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I simulated one the front die. The outside edge had a rim edge that is lower on the side of the die. It is breaks away a bit, makes the rim raised higher.
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Note the outside edge on the upper part of the die? There is step down that forms the rim. It that gets broke away (probably from making contact with the collar) it allows the metal to flow deeper on the die edge that makes the rim higher.
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Quote:
How are rim Cuds formed?

I agree on how they're formed. The design rim gets chipped or has broken away. A few key words to think about is uniformed pressure, containment and alignment. Metal under pressure flows.

A consistent uniformed containment is needed to upright and backfill the design rim as well as the outer devices under pressure. When misalignments occur the balance of containment is altered. Metal under pressure flows as best it can when containment is altered.

Case in point, remove the collar out of the equation all together. Where does the material flow? You'll find it flows outward and very little gets backfilled. Thanks, Doug.
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