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Shill bidding is a sort of marketing strategy. If it makes you money why not use it. It is unethical. Try bidding on your own items at any live auction (e.g., livestock, cars, coins) and see what happens...
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Bedrock of the Community
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It is unethical. Try bidding on your own items at any live auction (e.g., livestock, cars, coins) and see what happens... Many major auction houses around the world actually do allow that if you read through their terms. Most also reserve the right to bid on items they are auctioning for their own purchase as well.
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Pillar of the Community
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Many major auction houses around the world actually do allow that if you read through their terms name 3
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Many major auction houses around the world actually do allow that if you read through their terms And the biggest one of them all, ebay, has their terms. It is not allowed.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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there are more too if you look hard enoough 163533322150163561783072i cant trust this thief anymore very dishonest sneaky |
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i think this guy should be banned from ebay for good |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:And the biggest one of them all, ebay, has their terms. It is not allowed. By volume they probably are the biggest. They aren't even close money wise for coins especially if you are only counting auctions and not BINs.
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Pillar of the Community
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They aren't even close money wise for coins especially if you are only counting auctions but were not only talking coins therefor ebay wins imagine you goto a store pick out a tv for $500 bring it to the cashier and say I gotta goto the can and when you come back that price tag has been changed to $2500 thats pretty much what is going on here
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Pillar of the Community
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sometimes you get alot more or alot less for your item than u expected when you sell by auction but this is the chance you take which you agreed to when you set your starting bid
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Pillar of the Community
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As I said earlier .. red flags should flap before your eyes when you see "private listing" for any auction. You don't know who you are bidding against ... a shill, the actual owner, the seller using another ID name or another collector. But I agree, gidgit .. this guy takes the cake and should be banned. Sells to himself, cancels the auction (no charge), writes up a 5 star feedback for both buyer and seller, and then relists the same item for a higher price now that he knows someone will bid on it.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote:but were not only talking coins therefor ebay wins I was only talking coins which is why ebay does not win money wise. Volume wise they likelu do. They especially don't win money wise when talking about auctions only where BINs don't matter. Quote:
imagine you goto a store pick out a tv for $500 bring it to the cashier and say I gotta goto the can and when you come back that price tag has been changed to $2500 thats pretty much what is going on here No what would happen instead is that you would never have been allowed to think you won for 25% of the real value in the first place. I can't do anything to stop the pitch forks so I will just back out now. Point was a lot of general statements were being made that are standard elsewhere
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Pillar of the Community
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I can't do anything to stop the pitch forks so I will just back out now. Point was a lot of general statements were being made that are standard elsewhere I'm not sure what this means, but I looked at the listings and it seems fairly clear this seller repeatedly violates ebay rules in order to profit and build a false reputation. So he should be banned from ebay.
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Pillar of the Community
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Point was a lot of general statements were being made that are standard elsewhere again... name 3 auction houses that allow this  according to you it is in their terms of service, which if you are referring to them I assume you've read them, so shouldn't be too hard to name them or copy/paste the relevant text.
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02/28/2019 8:54 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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again... name 3 auction houses that allow this
according to you it is in their terms of service, which if you are referring to them I assume you've read them, so shouldn't be too hard to name them or copy/paste the relevant text. I have heard of bidding on your own items being allowable in some auctions. The thing is if you "win" your own item your must pay all buying and selling fees associated with the "win" so if the item gets anywhere near its market value you would lose big-time if you "won". The old Teletrade Coin auction site had hidden reserves used to bid up prices when there were no other bidders. I had it happen to me; coins I had bid on were won by other bidders and ended up right back in another Teletrade auction a week or two later. They are out-of-business and rightly so.
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