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1832 Greece 1 Drachmai

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 Posted 02/26/2019  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow!
I say into the MS grades, which makes it a four figure coin if I'm not mistaken.
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Now that I get a better look at the pic this morning, this displays significant die clashing. It looks like almost a full profile die-clash on the reverse including the face (nose, lips, chin) and the back of the head. It also has a full transfer of the leaves in front of the face on the obverse and a hint of the leaves behind the head and a little above his head.

Unfortunately it has a weak strike fron noon to 2 o'clock obverse and correspondingly at 4 to 6 o'clcok reverse.

All in all, a very interesting specimen.

Its a little easier to appreciate from this image. Its not obvious, but if you follow the link and double click the image, it should enlarge in your browser.
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Talk about a die clash. Check out this MS66 specimen from Heritage Auctions a few years back.
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Certainly no less than AU-58, probably much higher.
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A little rub on the obverse high points. AU-58
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I got this graded and they determined that it had been cleaned. I'm definitely bummed that it came back details.

Genuine Uncirculated Details Cleaned
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The fields look much cleaner in my pictures, so this is the rare case that my photos are better than TrueView.
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What pushed them to a "cleaned" grade in your opinion?
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@Loruca
I suspect they see the obverse fields behind the head and in front of the neck. I should receive them today and will try to look for signs. Honestly I did not see evidence, but I'm also not the best at grading.
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It looks like there are scratches in the fields indicating a cleaning.
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I actually studied this for a while just now and I thought it might have been polished actually! But not cleaned.
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Still a handsome coin!
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Agree, still has great eye appeal.
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When I saw the pic of the coin my first response was "Cleaned"...I was not surprised that it came back that way. The surface is such an even non dark toning with dirt/darker toning caught in the letters.

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