What Do You Guys Think About This 1960 Nickel Proof

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CouchDiver1978 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 02/27/2019 7:40 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74718 Posts	Posted 02/27/2019 7:44 pm Very nice Proof coin! Are you trying to ask about doubling? Errers and Varietys. Edited by Errers and Varietys 02/27/2019 7:45 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CouchDiver1978 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 02/27/2019 7:50 pm Yes I can't really find a listing that looks close( assuming real doubling to begin with) possibly number 34 the link that Wexler gives on his site, but I don't know. The pictures I put on there aren't really the better ones but my phone's about to die and wanted to post it while I still have just a little bit of battery I'll throw up something better later. Report this Post to the Staff
Errers and Varietys Bedrock of the Community United States 74718 Posts	Posted 02/27/2019 7:52 pm Have you check varietyvista.com yet? http://www.varietyvista.com Errers and Varietys. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 02/27/2019 8:01 pm I'm no expert here, but I know proof coins often exhibit minor doubling because they are struck twice during the minting process. Report this Post to the Staff
CouchDiver1978 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 02/27/2019 9:39 pm I'm not very experienced with proofs, but I think I've seen what you're talkin about Coinfrog. I thought that could be the case with this one too and then I thought that because it's cameo oh, I was just seeing a reflection. The pictures below are shot with different lighting in different filters and from different angles just to show that it pretty much remains consistent no matter which way I took the picture. I suppose double strike and could still be the cause, but it seems pretty extreme. Edited by CouchDiver1978 02/27/2019 9:40 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CouchDiver1978 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 02/28/2019 11:38 am Going to check Variety Vista this afternoon. Here's a pic of the whole back along with several more closeups of less affected areas of the reverse, as it may hold some significantice that the affliction increases from south to north. Just noticed that I didn't post it. Thank you EV and CF for your responses! Edited by CouchDiver1978 02/28/2019 11:38 am Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/28/2019 11:44 am Looks like Machine Doubling on some of the devices. Not a doubled die. Report this Post to the Staff
CouchDiver1978 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 02/28/2019 1:08 pm Thanks for your reply Coop. Just so understand, are you saying that MD accounts for everything, or just the lower devices? In other words, does it also apply to the split seraphs and separation in the upper devices constituting e pluribus unum? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/28/2019 1:22 pm Note the direction and spread on this 1960 WDDO-038 Nickel. Note where the doubling is and how on your coin where the doubling shouldn't be: Note the spread is not visible on the edges of the devices. Your coin is showing all doubling on the edges of the devices and none in the centers of the devices where Machine Doubling is found. Report this Post to the Staff
CouchDiver1978 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 02/28/2019 2:03 pm I see what you mean Coop. I may look over it again thoroughly with this in mind and hopefully I'll have something post. CF suggested what is visible could possibly be caused by the second strike. If this is the case then is a highly offset second strike worth any kind of a premium? If nothing else I still have a proof coin but it would be nice to have a little something extra out of it. Awesome pictures and annotations man! This post really helped bring certain things into Focus for me. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 02/28/2019 9:18 pm Well all proof coins are struck with two or more strikes. So it is just a normal proof coin with Machine Doubling. (I prefer Strike Doubling as they are struck normally more than once. But something that happens on proof coins is called flat field doubling: This also is a no premium for coins that have this. But this one is a doubled die, with flat field doubling. Note arrow colors. Here is a normal proof with flat field doubling. No premium for this either. Edited by coop 02/28/2019 9:22 pm Report this Post to the Staff
CouchDiver1978 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 03/01/2019 10:32 am Thanks Coop! This is definitely the post that I refer back to time and time again. I have one more question for you if that's all right. In my research of this coin I stumbled across this 1938 proof listed in Cherry Pickers as a re engraved die. I haven't seen any listings for the 1960 Proof Nickel, but that said do you think there's any potential here? I know it's a long shot but the upper Loop in the B in the photograph below bares some loose resemblance to the listing in Cherry Pickers. At least to my untrained eye it does. Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 03/01/2019 11:24 am It is something that is not done but a few times. On this year there were three different dies that were engraved. FS-401: FS-402: FS-403: The Lincoln cents had a engraving on the neck area on a few years. But they seldom do this. The nickels were probably just dies engravings because they were given FS numbers. (Also we hear little about them) Cents probably a few hubs were engraved, as it doesn't show up the full lines of those years as much as well. As far a I know of, the Cents didn't have FS numbers. Report this Post to the Staff
CouchDiver1978 Valued Member United States 386 Posts	Posted 03/01/2019 5:46 pm Wealth of knowledge in you sir. Many thanks! Report this Post to the Staff
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