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1930 LWC/Foreign Planchet? Errors?

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 Posted 02/28/2019  08:15 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Skippy72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Good morning everyone. Here is a coin I came across that I have turned in every direction, and literally can't wrap my head around it. It has raised images, lettering and numbers. Everything seems rotated. On the reverse, the "E" in CENT is has an "E" under and above it. The "N" in CENT is also but note as much. As well as the "O" in ONE. The "N" and "E" is as well. There is something raised and goes north to the rim from ONE. On the Obverse there are raised images in the left/right fields, and the letters and date are underlying to the East. I am going to look into it online to see what I can come up with if anything is listed but I thought I would let everybody have a look at it and judge it themselves in the meantime. Here are a few images....
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
1930-LWC/Foreign-Planchet?-Errors?
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 Posted 02/28/2019  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I can see there is some light MD. But a lot of crud on the coin
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 Posted 02/28/2019  08:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like some sort of gunk has adhered to the reverse. I don't think it's a foreign planchet.
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 Posted 02/28/2019  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Skippy72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No offense, and I know you can only go by the pictures that I give you which aren't very good but I am seeing a distinct 5 showing under the upper "E", and definitely not crud or Gunk attached to the coin for this is part of the coin.....
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 Posted 02/28/2019  09:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's not struck on a Foriegn planchet. It's a normal coin. What are you seeing as an error?
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There may be some die damage, and I think I am starting to see the beginnings of Progressive Indirect Design Transfer (PIDT).

If it was struck on a foreign planchet the surface of the planchet would still be smooth so no raised features would result. If it was struck on a foreign coin a lot more design features would be visible, and would show more on the devices than in the fields.
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I see 2 places marked 1 & 2 where the coin appears to have taken hits PSD, the area marked with a question mark, I'm not sure of.

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Conder - Could you further explain PIDT, please.
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Conder - Could you further explain PIDT, please.

Through extended use the force of the dies through the planchet can eventually transfer a faint enlarged distorted image of their features onto the opposite die. Coins struck will then show this "ghost" image of the design from the other side. (Hence why it is sometimes called "ghosting".) they should not be confused with die clashes which have sharp edges defining the image from the other side. A PIDT image has faint blurred edges. PIDT is most commonly seen on coins that are thin and sometimes on coins that need high tonnage pressures to coin. Three Cent Silver and gold dollars are very commonly seen with PIDT, as are Kennedy halves. The "halo" often seen around Kennedy's bust and the eagle are the result of PIDT. It also shows up somewhat often on Lincoln cents especially wheat cents form the 20's, and frequently on British and Australian large pennys due to their large diameter and thinness.

For further explanation
http://www.error-ref.com/progressiv...gn-transfer/
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