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Edited by morganman56
03/01/2019 3:43 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Hard to tell if there's any wear due to the sleeve and dark photo, but doesn't look like it from here so I'll say MS-62. This is high relief just like all 1921 Peace dollars. Slabbing might be worth the cost if the coin has nice luster, but from these pics I can't see much |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I think the OP is asking whether this is a satin matte proof 1921 Peace dollar of which there are only 10-15 known examples. Looking at the hair, it does not look like it has a proof strike. There are diagnostics like several raised die polishing lines in the left obverse field which can be examined for. This coin has one of the markers, a distinct triangular pellet after TRVST. It should be examined, but it looks like a worn and baggy 1921 high relief business strike. It is possible that is a worn impaired proof, but only an expert could make a definitive call. Probably not just a random TPG grader. Edited by numismatic student
02/28/2019 9:57 pm
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I took it out of the flip & added a few more photos. Sorry about the bad pictures, I can't seem to get the camera lens from creating a shadow.
Edited by morganman56
02/28/2019 10:42 pm
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This variety of Peace dollar is very hard to grade, being that even the proofs were weakly struck in the center, especially around the ear, making it look like a circulated coin, but really is a proof. (I'm not saying this one is - but...) |
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I took it out of the flip & added a few more photos. Sorry about the bad pictures, I can't seem to get the camera lens from creating a shadow. I use a cheap camera and take most my pics using only daylight. Cloudy days don't work, needs to be sunlight. Any lightbulb I have used leaves bad pics. A good coin picture is a hobby in it's self. You really need good, or decent pics to get a good grade here, hard to guess from bad pics. Yea, I'm guilty of posting a lot of bad pics here myself... it's a work in progress. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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I'd like to see better pics, but this appears to be high AU. Definitely not a proof.
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Looks like a sightly circulated example of a non-proof coin from the photos. AU53-55 would be my guess from these photos.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Unable to grade from these photos.
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Please let me know if these last pics are an improvement? Took in natural light.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Sorry, these do not help.
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OK then, Thanks for the reply. I will try another camera.
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Bedrock of the Community
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compare to a known proof. not really anything alike. this was graded pr62.   |
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Thanks for the known proof. But this one is hard to see any details of what makes it - from these pictures. Can you edumacate me?
If you click on my horrible blue (sorry) pics, you can see all the hallmark signs that is proof worthy. Lines in between the neck and E in WE, In God We, lines surrounding OF on top of reverse, raised large mark next to TRVST.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Look at the hair of liberty and the plumage of the eagle. Significantly weaker strike than what you would expect from a proof. Also why is your coin so bagmarked? How would a proof coin with a production run of 10-15 coins end up in a bag of 1,000 silver dollars? Does the coin appear to have a sandblast or satin matte finish? Why does your coin appear to have the business strike white frost surface? David Hall: High Relief 1921 Peace dollars were difficult to strike properly with one blow of the coining press. Nearly all known specimens are lightly struck on the hair at the center of the obverse and often at the center of the reverse as well. In fact, fewer than 10 1921 Peace dollars out of 1,000 are very sharply struck. As the PCGS, NGC, ANACS, etc., certification services do not insist upon sharp strike as a pre-requisite to high grade, chances are excellent that a certified MS-63, 64, or 65 coin may be weakly struck, at least on the obverse. Often, a high-grade 1921 Peace dollar will show a subdued white frost in the areas oflight striking on the obverse; this represents the surface of the original planchet. |
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Posted 02/28/2019 9:56 pm
