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Switzerland 1931 5 Francs P/L Specimen

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 Posted 08/12/2008  3:19 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I was lucky enough to acquire one of these. It's P/L with frosted and mirrored features. Pictures didn't come out so good though. Anyone know the #'s for how many are thought to exist?
Thanks.

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 Posted 08/12/2008  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add spica to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it is Switzerland 5 francs 1931 B KM#40 15g silver 0.835 total mintage is 3,520,000
exist varieties edge lettering : *** DOMINUS ************ PROVIDEBIT (very rare)
or ************ PROVIDEBIT *** DOMINUS (rare)

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 Posted 08/12/2008  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Spica, I know the mintages for the regular and edge variety versions listed in Krause. I was wondering if anyone knows the mintage for specimens of this year?
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 Posted 08/16/2008  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WorldCoinTreasures to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Numismat,

Just being nosey. Could you explain again what you're wanting to know? I thought spica answered your question.

Thanks
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 Posted 08/16/2008  06:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm, the "partly frosted, partly mirror" appearance is normal for those 5 fr coins. See the mint's website for an image of a recent piece:
http://www.swissmint.ch/upload/bild...n/fr_5_b.jpg
http://www.swissmint.ch/upload/bild...n/fr_5_w.jpg

Newer Swiss coins (commems only, I think) are sometimes struck as "essai" pieces. They would then have an extra logo - a cross in a circle, with an E on the edge. Those have low mintages and higher prices. But I am pretty sure they did not do that back in the 1930s ...

Christian
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08/16/2008 11:51 am
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 Posted 08/16/2008  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice coin!
I agree with Christian,
Switzerland has the distinction of issuing very nice strikes for circulation.
I often found nearly "cameo" coins in change while there--not from the 30s of course--I never saw any silver.
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08/16/2008 11:56 am
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 Posted 08/16/2008  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kurt, you said it... "not from the 30's". Copper-nickel, post 1968 dates are often P/L. 1931, however... there are no proof or P/L examples. Only specimens. And I was wondering if anyone knows the mintage numbers for just the specimens.

Here are much better pictures, this time without using the flash.

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Switzerland-1931-5-Francs-P/L-Specimen

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08/16/2008 12:38 pm
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 Posted 08/16/2008  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numismat,
I could easily be wrong to interpret older coins by my limited experience.
That is indeed a beautiful 5 Fr! I can't recall seeing any circulating "cameos" with such well-struck facial features.
Good luck finding more info...are there any collectors here living in CH? I haven't met one yet.
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 Posted 08/17/2008  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks!Yea, I think there would be a lot more international collectors adding their 2 cents if the forum had some sort of translation service built in. Until then... =)
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 Posted 08/17/2008  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't think it is primarily a language/translation issue. If I did not collect modern US coins in addition to the euro coins that circulate here (I'm in NW, DE), I would probably not visit places where "my" coins are in a "World" mixed bag. (No criticism of this community; that applies, due to the collecting habits of most Americans, to pretty much all US based forums.) You do, however, have a very nice coin there!

Christian
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 Posted 08/18/2008  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have a great point Christian, thanks =)
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