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pattiewhack Pillar of the Community Canada 1152 Posts	Posted 08/13/2008 02:22 am I remember reading about these in CoinWorld a while back. THese look to be graded by SEGS but no actual grade is given. So are these the real deal 1938 pattern Jefferson's? http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1938-JEFFE...OF_W0QQitemZ 370075454615QQihZ024QQcategoryZ41088QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem cheers, Andrew Report this Post to the Staff

KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 08/13/2008 05:42 am Hmm...looking at that packaging, I wonder what the following means: Quote: The "1938" Jefferson nickel Award Winning Design So I wonder what those quotes around "rare" and "1938" signify? So I did some further checking. Coinfacts.com doesn't list a pattern for 1938 (and they usually do). Popping over to Heritage, there haven't been auctions for such a pattern. Hmmm...that's funny. Google can't find these on other legitimate sites. Back to the auction... Quote: THEY ARE SLABBED TO ATTEST THAT THEY WERE THE PATTERN COINS FOR THE NICKEL, THIS SET COMES IN ITS OWN BOX, Nothing on Heritage, yet here they are in their "own box". So what about that box--does it appear circa 1938, or some later creation? These coins appear to be pristine, so where is their original packaging? Slabbing proves exactly what--other than sealed in plastic? I see a lot of hits against this "pattern". If anyone can prove me wrong, please do. Report this Post to the Staff
eaglefoot Pillar of the Community United States 6326 Posts	Posted 08/13/2008 07:30 am Report this Post to the Staff
biokemist6 Bedrock of the Community United States 12437 Posts	Posted 08/13/2008 09:06 am Notice the label on the box, FSNC= Full Step Nickel Club. This appears to have been a fundraising effort by FSNC and commissioned the Gallery Mint to recreate the winning design by Felix Schlag. SEGS just happens to be "the official TPG" of FSNC so that is why it is slabbed by SEGS. Notice the slab label- mintage 1,938- a convenient mintage for a fundraiser. Gallery Mint sold them for $38 in matte unc and $42 in proof. This is a private striking and not a genuine pattern or legal tender coin. Since it is not a pattern, this guy is off his rocker wanting $1500 http://www.gmmnut.com/gmm/gmm48.html#fsnc Report this Post to the Staff
eaglefoot Pillar of the Community United States 6326 Posts	Posted 08/13/2008 09:23 am Quote: Gallery Mint sold them for $38 in matte unc and $42 in proof. UGGGGGHHHH !..... I've run across "Gallery Mint" letdowns before !......(1793 Large Cent that went for $13.00 !......this coin made me drive all the way over to this auction, only to find out.....grrrrrr !) Gallery Mint Franklin Mint The New York Mint CSN The Washington Mint (and soooooo many countless other "Private Mints" !....... they're NO DIFFERENT THAN THE HOME SHOPPING NETWORK........) And I hate them more than I hate brussel sprouts ! Edited by eaglefoot 08/13/2008 09:27 am Report this Post to the Staff
jbuck Moderator United States 187582 Posts	Posted 08/13/2008 09:59 am Quote: Notice the label on the box, FSNC= Full Step Nickel Club. Great catch, biokemist! Thanks for the link as well! Quote: And I hate them more than I hate brussel sprouts ! I happen to like brussels sprouts! Just do not overcook them and they taste good! Coin Collector Since 1978 Avatar Old Avatar 7070 Eisenhower Australia Canada World CCF Members on eBay CCF eBay Search Engine Report this Post to the Staff
eaglefoot Pillar of the Community United States 6326 Posts	Posted 08/13/2008 10:35 am Quote: I happen to like brussels sprouts! Just do not overcook them and they taste good! Jbuck ..... To me they smell like moose urine, dead nightcrawlers, and armpit...... Of course there's a "forced to eat them" childhood story with me & brussel sprouts here.....but it's a long story and that would be WAYYYYY off topic to go into it now.....even for me ! or not.... Let's just say that 4 hours after everyone else has left the dinner table and I've been told that I have to sit there until the brussel sprouts are gone, I discovered that the family dog (Shih Tsu named Waffles) would eat them !......Well turns out he was just carrying them into the living room and spitting them out onto the couch, the floor, etc......And, when checked on by my mother, I was praised and congratulated and patted on the back for eating these vile vegetables....... This only lasted for a short time until she discovered what Waffles was doing with them !.....I was then grounded for 2 weeks and was not her pride and joy any longer...... There !......that's "one" reason why I hate them !.....Is this off topic too much ya think ?.... Edited by eaglefoot 08/13/2008 10:45 am Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 08/13/2008 11:01 am I see the answer has already been given but I didn't read the responses before I went looking for answers for you, here is a quote from another website Quote: They were made for the Full Step Jefferson nickel Club. They officially sell them in Satin / Matte finish and Proof finish. Roughly $35-$40.00 each.. I think the Matte is a little cheaper than the Proof. There were 1938 of each made. They are all in SEGS slabs.. They are not commercially graded, just encapsulated. Report this Post to the Staff
KurtS Pillar of the Community United States 5318 Posts	Posted 08/13/2008 1:34 pm Quote: Notice the slab label- mintage 1,938- a convenient mintage for a fundraiser. Wow...great observation! That's very telling too...I doubt many patterns had such a large run. Quote: I've run across "Gallery Mint" letdowns before !......(1793 Large Cent that went for $13.00 ! I remember you posting that on CCF...sigh, yeah--what a letdown I guess that clinches it on those "patterns", eh? I just hope nobody bids. Brussels sprouts...they scared me as a kid, but I like them now. Edited by KurtS 08/13/2008 1:36 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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