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1945 S Lincoln Wheat Cent Doubled Die DDO-001 - Woody W/Lamination

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A woody is much less striking on an uncirculated coin, but still can create some neat toning colors and the usual lamination peels. Most collectors do not want errors on their coins, just a clean example of the coin, but I tend to like a good variety/error coin so picked this one up. It was listed as a planchet error and the DDO-001 part wasn't noted.

1945-S Lincoln Wheat cent doubled die DDO-001 - lamination


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Great lam for sure and a beautiful coin. Wouldn't have guessed it was a woody, but I'll take your word for it.
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It was laminated before strike so can be considered an incomplete planchet as well !
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If it were a lamination before the strike, the '5' would be complete. But it is not complete, so it peeled after the strike.
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Note the devices are all the same as the missing cladding was gone before the strike.
1945-S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-Die-DDO-001---Woody-W/Lamination
Clading that came off after the strike leaves a ghost image on the strike.
Same for a lamination. The part that came off, had the missing partial '5'.
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Coop , the weak opposing rim says it was laminated before strike
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A good point. So is part of the lamination folded over the East side of the '5'?
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Not folded over the 5. Here are some close ups from two different lighting angles.


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The 5 does show a sloped weakness as it approaches the laminated area. Seems typical of an incomplete planchet
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Awesome coin tropicalbats!
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Great coin. I collect varieties on incomplete planchets, let me know if you get tired of looking at that one.

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The last image shows what I needed to see. It looks like the planchet had a lamination issue before the strike, but is still continuing to peel after the strike. Note the ghost outline of the '5'. Thanks for the extra images. They explained a lot more. Detective work is never done at first glance, sometimes.

An example of my theory. That when blanks are turned into a planchet, the setup up process can loosen any laminations. On this one part of the lamination fell off before the strike. But after the strike the lamination continues to peel.

1945-S-Lincoln-Wheat-Cent-Doubled-Die-DDO-001---Woody-W/Lamination
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Coop, you have been busy! Nice graphic. And sorry Sean, but this one is a DDO-001 in nice shape so enters the DDO-001 collection and probably won't exit for many years.
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Just for clarification.
This is a question, not a comment on what is present.

This is a lamination because, the missing part of the planchet. If this were a Cud, the area would be raised ?

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Panther, that's correct. A Cud would be raised above the surfaces.
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