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 to CCF. All I know is the first two are called "spade money" John1 
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The second and the third do not look like coins-likely amulets or charms. The 4th resembles a 100 Mon from Japan ((ca)1835-1870). Experts here can give an opinion on whether #1 and #4 are indeed genuine.
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Unfortunately, none of these items are genuine ancient or antique Chinese coins. Item 1 is a replica of a 2000 year old bronze "spade coin". We can tell it's a replica because genuine spade coins that old are always covered in a thick, dark green patina. Further, genuine "three hole spades" are amongst the rarest of ancient Chinese proto-coins, with only a few dozen known. There is only one, this one, listed on Zeno.ru. Item 2 is a charm, roughly in the shape of a "tally", a monetary-substitute used during the Song and Yuan Dynasties; they are usually called "incantation tablets" in the literature. Item 3 is a Taoist charm. The reverse has a "taoist spell", much like this example with a translation. Item 4 is, as others have stated, a copy of a Japanese colonial 100 mon coin.
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I have looked into the "3 holed spade" coin a bit and it would appear not all of them do have the thick green patina as you have suggested.... such as the one pictured here which you can find by searching 3 holed spade on google and clicking on the topmost result..... Not saying that mine is indeed a genuine specimen, in fact I highly doubt I would be so lucky as to have one in my possession for sure, but I just don't think I would be so quick to rule it out simply because it doesn't have this thick green patina covering it. 
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sn3rg, the problem with your argument is that nothing says the images you find in a Google search are pictures of real spade currency. There are many folks here who are not experts, me included, but, as the historical archive here attests, Sap is a bona fide expert. I wouldn't doubt him on a simple matter like this. For what it's worth, my non-expert opinion is that basic chemistry requires any bronze object that is 2000 years old to have a thick green patina.
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