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English Token 1791 Macclesfield Halfpenny

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 Posted 08/17/2008  10:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Nelrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
My son picked this up at our local Coin shop. All that was said about it is "it's an old English Token". Anyone recognize it and maybe shed so light on value and history? For a coin of it's age, it's in great condition, needless to say it's the oldest one in his collection!

It says on the rim "PAYABLE TO MACCLESFIELD LIVERPOOL OR CONGLETON"

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 Posted 08/17/2008  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G'day, there were thousands of varieties of copper tokens, and a few silver tokens, issued in the United Kingdom from 1790 to 1815. There's a lot of history on display. I have acquired a few: I look for ones with a regional connection to the places my ancestors came from; and any political tokens. The politicals often seem amusing now, but the manufacturers were courageous to make them at the time they did.

Here are some details about the gent on your token:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Roe

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 Posted 08/24/2008  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In that grade I'd say maybe worth around £10. These are commonly termed 'Conder tokens' after James Conder, originally an Ipswich draper who issued some of his own tokens and later on wrote the first catalogue on the coppery curiosities. They were all produced during a period of dire shortage in metals and buying them from foreign countries was too expensive, so companies and regional authorities manily were permitted to issue their own to fill the shortfall in change.
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 Posted 08/25/2008  2:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nelrak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks gentlemen. I guess he made a bad decision then...he paid $50 for it. Oh well, live and learn.
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 Posted 08/25/2008  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I could always be wrong! I don't have the price guide to those yet.. but by instinct that's what I'd say. $50 though!? - dealers!..
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 Posted 08/25/2008  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$50 seems a bit high to me but not outragous.
This Roe in AU condition is priced at $195.
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 Posted 08/26/2008  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisMattyUk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm the metal condition of that coin is superb, I'm not too surprised with the valuation, but then they are a bit sneaky -doesn't it look like there some clear and significant rub on this coin or is it me?
I wouldn't be surprised if a genuine good EF of those would be well worth that price, but then there are coins with a good appearance to the metal, which are are however a little worn.
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