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Sorry if a similar post appears with the same image, I asked staff to move a similar post to this forum page and I just decided to make a new topic before they moved it. So basically when I traveled to India, people in small markets were selling coin sheets. They weren't very expensive and I found interesting coins. Now I know that they could be replicas but I kind of doubt it. They could have been cleaned. Keep in mind that I lived in India for 2 years and I know that the locals don't focus on coins at all, there trying to feed themselves and their families. They could have found these coins randomly, out in some area. I can 100% tell you that the government does not make replicas and commemoratives of old coins. Just wondering if the coin is legit, what coin it specifically is, and if it's rare. Thank you   Edited by SilverCents
04/07/2019 10:51 am
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Please post a pic of the other side.
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04/07/2019 10:50 am
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Oh my lord I'm sorry...let me fix that
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Not my area of collecting... Looks similar to this? Probably not an exact match but in the right direction I think? Ref coinindia.. Hopefully some of the experts will step in and correct me! Vasu Deva I Copper unit (tetradrachm?), c. 200-225 CE Weight: 8.93 gm., Diam: 22 mm., Die axis: 1 o'clock Crowned, diademed king standing facing, nimbate, holding trident and sacrificing at altar at left, second trident above altar, Bactrian legend around: žAONANOžAO BA ... ZOΔηO KOžANO (King of Kings Bazodeo Kushan), nandipada in right field / Two-armed Shiva standing facing, holding trident and diadem, Bull Nandi left behind, Bactrian legend left: OηžO, tamgha at right  Edited by Palouche
04/07/2019 11:56 am
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If you can remove the coin from the 2x2 and take better pictures with size and weight of the coin it would help. I responded to your other post stating that it didn't appear to be Kushan, but it does have a similar appearance to an AE drachm of Kanishka I.
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I see, I currently don't have a scale to weigh the coin, but it does feel heavier, and around the 10g range. Thanks so much, what would be the value on a coin like this? I cannot remove the 2x2 folder, it's my fathers not mine. Also here are some more images, I don't really think they are much better but hope it kinda helps:     Edited by SilverCents
04/07/2019 11:59 am
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I agree with Ron , it would be better with a clearer photo to take away the glare...But as you can't I still think its Vasu Deva I...Paul  Edited by Palouche
04/07/2019 12:27 pm
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Alright, I will try to get better photos somehow, in the meantime, let's say it is this coin you say it could be, what would be the value be?
From doing my research I would say maybe $30?
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04/07/2019 12:40 pm
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As I said before ..Not my area of collecting but in this condition $5-10?
Maybe others will have a better idea....Paul
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Alright thank you, after analyzing the coin for 25 minutes, I have come to the conclusion that this coin is 100% the coin you said it was, the Vasu Deva. There are many die markers that you cannot see from the pictures, but I can see while I look at it in person.
Thanks so much for the help everyone, especially you Paul, you have confirmed for me that this coin is what you say it is!
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I agree. It appears to be a coin of Vasu Deva or successors who imitated the type. Very common. It's value is mostly historical.
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So basically when I traveled to India, people in small markets were selling coin sheets. They weren't very expensive and I found interesting coins. Now I know that they could be replicas but I kind of doubt it. They could have been cleaned. Keep in mind that I lived in India for 2 years and I know that the locals don't focus on coins at all, there trying to feed themselves and their families. They could have found these coins randomly, out in some area. I can 100% tell you that the government does not make replicas and commemoratives of old coins. As is the case with much of the Old World, India has strict laws in place regarding the sale of ancient coins. On paper, at least - how well the laws are actually implemented in a relatively poor, high-population country like India is another question. Here's a PDF of India's Antiquities and Art Treasures Act, 1972, in which it states that every coin over 100 years old is theoretically an "antiquity" that cannot be sold or exported without a permit. Selling genuine ancient coins might (theoretically) be strictly controlled, but selling fake ones is perfectly OK. Very often, in countries where such laws are in place (eg. most countries around the Mediterranean), the vast majority of the "coins" you find for sale in the street markets are replicas. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I see, I also forgot to mention that after purchasing these sheets, I found another man a few days ago that actually dealt with coins, he sold me some silver 1 Rupee coins as well. I asked him about the coin sheets and he said that the people in Old Delhi, where I got the sheets, that they would actually gather up some of the genuine ancient coins and put one in every sheet. The thing was that they cleaned those ancient coins at an extreme level, so they would look pretty to site-seers. I can tell you that the "100 year coin" law was not pushed upon them, as I actually got a legitimate 1903 1/4 Anna from the coin sheets back in 2017. I also got a few other coins from the late 1800s from those coin sheets as well, which I got authenticated.
This is why I asked about the coin, because I honestly doubt they would make replicas, as these coin sheets rarely ever get sold, as foreigners don't generally go into the parts where they sell them.
You might be right I have no idea really...
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04/08/2019 03:30 am
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As I understand it, the trade in antique coins is legal within the country but licensing and record-keeping are onerous. Small unlicensed vendors risk confiscation but enforcement is lax. Export of antique coins, on the other hand, is banned altogether. You may find the laws more stringently enforced if you attempt to take the coins out of the country.
That being said, the op coin is almost certainly genuine. It would cost more to produce a fake than to acquire the real thing.
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04/08/2019 12:06 pm
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