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mtracy14 Valued Member United States 55 Posts	Posted 04/09/2019 9:00 pm Looks like an unintentional groove along the rim on the reverse side. On the obverse side, although you cannot see it in the main photo, in the close up photo, you can clearly see ghost of seven beads just inside the actual beaded circle. I do not see any other ghost images with my microscope. Could this mean the planchet may have originally struck with a half penny die by mistake, thus causing the rim damage on one side, and the image of a smaller beaded circle on the other? Has anyone seen this before? How does this affect the value? Report this Post to the Staff

DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9866 Posts	Posted 04/09/2019 9:05 pm It's the result of a die clash. Quite common. Adds to interest but not much to value "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Edited by DBM 04/09/2019 9:08 pm Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsguy Pillar of the Community Canada 2301 Posts	Posted 04/09/2019 9:08 pm As usual, DBM is correct! Nice coin. Report this Post to the Staff
Coinfrog Bedrock of the Community United States 94367 Posts	Posted 04/09/2019 9:57 pm Nothing more to say. Nice coin. Report this Post to the Staff
mtracy14 Valued Member United States 55 Posts	Posted 04/09/2019 11:48 pm This site is a wealth of information. I appreciate input from all. Does "die clash" also explain the ridge in the rim on the ovverse? Report this Post to the Staff
SPP-Ottawa Moderator Canada 10463 Posts	Posted 04/10/2019 12:16 am That "rim" or lip is from a very slightly mis-aligned die, with metal pushed up between the die and the collar. That said, it is still within mint tolerances (for the day) and adds no additional value. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer Content of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_US My eBay store Report this Post to the Staff
TerryT Pillar of the Community Canada 822 Posts	Posted 04/10/2019 4:12 pm While the errors discussed may not raise the value, the double-punched 9 will. Report this Post to the Staff
papeldog Pillar of the Community Canada 1923 Posts	Posted 04/10/2019 7:40 pm Good eye Terry T Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5593 Posts	Posted 04/10/2019 8:15 pm I think that the 3 may be as well. Report this Post to the Staff
papeldog Pillar of the Community Canada 1923 Posts	Posted 04/10/2019 9:23 pm I think your right Okie, the DP9 high/low I have has a little doubling on the top right of the 3 and a die clash in front of the 3 Report this Post to the Staff
mtracy14 Valued Member United States 55 Posts	Posted 04/10/2019 11:49 pm Thank you folks. Here are some close ups that may make it easier. A couple of good die cracks to go along with that. Is there any place that would indicate the value? I have a Haxby book, but most error price points only show up on the 1859. I purchased a few Canadian coins a while back, and I plan to pick some brains on all of them eventually so I can catelogue them as properly as possible. Report this Post to the Staff
mtracy14 Valued Member United States 55 Posts	Posted 04/10/2019 11:50 pm Report this Post to the Staff
okiecoiner Pillar of the Community Canada 5593 Posts	Posted 04/11/2019 05:39 am Neither the 9 or the 3 are doubled or repunched .. .the 9 has a little PMD that expands the tail a bit. The D/C through the V is deep and into the design. The anomaly in the "AT" looks like a planchette flaw. Report this Post to the Staff
papeldog Pillar of the Community Canada 1923 Posts	Posted 04/11/2019 08:29 am New picture's paint a much different identity of the coin like okie mentioned the close up shows no DP on the 9 or the 3 Report this Post to the Staff
mtracy14 Valued Member United States 55 Posts	Posted 04/11/2019 10:04 am Well, thanks for the bad news okiecoiner and papeldog. I guess I have the most interesting $9.00 coin ever. I still love all of the unusual details, war wounds and all. Fun journey, I appreciate your time. Report this Post to the Staff
papeldog Pillar of the Community Canada 1923 Posts	Posted 04/11/2019 10:40 am Don't be discouraged mtracy14, you have a nice 1893 high grade coin with a nice die clash on the obverse. There are several DP 9 varieties and DP 3's, but the one to watch for is the TP9 most have a die crack between DEI - Gratia. Happy Hunting Report this Post to the Staff
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