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1886 Canadian 25 Cent Coin.

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So I pulled out my proper camera, as opposed to my phone, and took a few better quality shots. Some are macro shots of close ups, and therefore have blurring on the edges. That is purely the lens. I also took some full coin shots using a different lens.

Noted on the coin there are several things I could use some help with. The coin currently has a hand written grade of F+. Take that with a grain of salt. It also says 1886/1883, and the word "OVERDATE"

My questions are:

1.Based on the pictures, would you agree with this grade, AND would YOU send it off to a place such as CCCS to be professionally done? Is the net value worth it?

2. What do the notes OVERDATE and 1886/1883 mean? I am having a hard time locating those thing. Pictures below.


1886-Canadian-25-Cent-Coin.
1886-Canadian-25-Cent-Coin.

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Can't comment as to rarity, but I would grade it VG-08.
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 Posted 04/27/2019  4:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BCTokens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

The term "OVERDATE" means that the last digit of the date was originally punched into the die as a "3" by error. It was then redone with a "6" punch. I believe that you can see traces of the original "3" on the left shoulder of the "6".

In any case, look very closely at the "6".

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 Posted 04/27/2019  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Talonbat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So I think the grade might be just a touch generous on this one, I think F12 would be more fair. The overdate looks like it is there but closer inspection would be warranted in hand, you can see on top left part of the 6 a little nub sticking out. Nowadays they refer to it as an 1886/7, used to be referred to as the 1886/3. I don't really think certification will be worth the money in this case but it's borderline so you would probably get what you put in out of it.
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1886/7 at Net VG Details ,note the obverse scratch on the portrait and also has some PVC
Contamination issues that need to be dealt with .
Acetone bath recommended!
Not worth certification , probably a realistic price of 60 to 75 CAD retail .
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Oh I thought never clean them?
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You have to stop environmental damage that is eating away the metal .. that's not cleaning, it's preservation.
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An acetone bath is not considered cleaning as it doesn't affect the surface of the coin.
Many collectors including myself will clean raw coins to remove any oils from handling.
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I agree with the last three posters regarding stopping the deterioration of the coin, the grade and the overdate.
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@ coinnoob, been following a lot of your posts on various coins.
Sounds like you have come across what most of us as dealers see
all the time . A lot of common Coins mixed in with a few collectible
numismatic Items . You ask a lot of questions which is great. As many
here at the CCF are sure willing to help . One thing that YOU should do
is acquire both a Charltons Coin Catalogue And also a Charltons Coin Guide .
The coin catalogue does not have to be new , the Guide Should be 2019.
Then it is imperative that YOU read both from cover to cover. This will give
you a wealth of knowledge in a short period of time.
Also not knowing EXACTLY What you have , might be worth it to pay for an appraisal .
Certainly for the time and cost involved , much more efficient than what you are currently
Up to , which is " Fumbling towards Ecstasy" .
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