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Recent Purchase First Radar In Multi Color Series

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 Posted 04/29/2019  09:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add TheBurnz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello All,

I feel lucky enough to have gotten these notes at a online auction this week-end.

Let me know your thoughts and evaluation. I'l assume the condition is AU as the auction didn't specify.

Thank you,

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 Posted 04/29/2019  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are cool as a pair, all depends on what you had to pay, but as always in an auction it's worth what two bidders bid. At recent Heritage sale the Canadian stuff just blew way past what I thought they were worth, came home empty
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 Posted 04/29/2019  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A two digit radar matching pair.
Very nice pickup. Not easy to find.
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 Posted 04/29/2019  10:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Impressive pair, congrats!
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 Posted 04/29/2019  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. Great notes
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 Posted 04/29/2019  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paisa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very Nice. A binary, a two digit radar and a pair. Super Cool.
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 Posted 04/29/2019  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
beauty pick-up, can we ask what the hammer price was for the pair?
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 Posted 04/30/2019  10:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheBurnz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
$950 + 18%commission + 5% tax. I'll Assume another $20 for shipping. Total should be around $1200 for both. So around $600 each.

I know the book says far less, but the book doesn't list the first possible radar of the whole multi-colour series. I had some one in the canadian paper money forum say they tought between $1000-$2000 each as their estimate.

When the auction started, they were asking for a $5000 starting bid, but with no bids and I guess a motivated seller, they accepted my opening bid of $700. Then with some real exaggerated delays and looking over to someone behind the scenes two more bids came in which boosted it to $900. I gave my next bid of $950 and they decided to let me have it.

Was quite the experience. Now I'am thinking of bringing them to the next Nuphilex show. I have never been, but I am assuming there will be some grading companies there(think of going with PCGS.) and having them graded.

Let me know if anyone has been before and if there is indeed grading companies on site at this show?
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PGCS Currency is a mess at the moment, PMG which is part of NGC is at the big US shows, these two notes you can use the Canadian services BCS or CCCS it would be much cheaper than the US graders and no shipping and customs problems, BCS is a tough grader. PCGS Currency was at the last few RCNA it cost about 50 bucks a note and 100 bucks for errors and they were extremely busy, but they recently lost their licence with the parent company
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 Posted 05/12/2019  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add walk2dwater to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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When the auction started, they were asking for a $5000 starting bid, but with no bids and I guess a motivated seller, they accepted my opening bid of $700. Then with some real exaggerated delays and looking over to someone behind the scenes two more bids came in which boosted it to $900. I gave my next bid of $950 and they decided to let me have it.

- I stopped hunting for notes on that network as too many notes were selling far, far over book value (& I have not seen that before for such low/poorly described notes). It's clear that they must have a large contingent of US or European buyers who are speculators. A starting bid of $5000 is highly unrealistic and coming from that site should be completely disregarded. I saw countless errors in their estimated value of mislabelled currency they had up for auctions in the past.
I hope "They" who "let you have it" refers to the other bidders (who backed off) and not the auction house.


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So around $600 each.

- I think that what you paid seems like a fair price provided the notes can be certified as UNC 62 (Original or EPQ). I realize that a member from CPMS estimated much higher but you should take that estimate with a grain of salt. While BV for 2 digits remains $110 those happen to be much highly sought after 1000 notes (which are not listed in the book). Good luck with the grading!
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 Posted 05/13/2019  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheBurnz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@walk2dwater I have received the notes, they came in a hard plastic case each and both look flawless, but again I am no grader. Thank you for the information on the notes, do you think they hold extra value being the first radar's in the whole multi-colour series. since they carry the prefixes AA and BA?

I also am very speculative of this auction house. I highly doubt there was another online bidder but I guess it is always possible that someone who works there might have been bidding against me.

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You have to wonder if the preauction price was 5 k and they accepted a very low opening bid, but you got a good deal as mentioned if the notes are unc, which they probably are because the original owner probably culled these from brick hunting. If you follow Heritage, or Canadian main auctions last couple years, the error and rare currency market has changed upwards by leaps and bounds, most things have doubled and triple and some really cool stuff, skies the limit. The price you paid is really good if they grade out, nice notes
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do you think they hold extra value being the first radar's in the whole multi-colour series. since they carry the prefixes AA and BA?


To some the first this or that, absolutely. But would the AA0001000 be worth more than the AB 0008000 (which also happens to be a rotator/extremely popular for some cultures)? I'm not so sure.

When it comes to certain levels of rarity it's like splitting hairs... The bottom line will be in the grade of the notes in question.
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If you follow ... Canadian main auctions last couple years, the error and rare currency market has changed upwards by leaps and bounds, most things have doubled and triple and some really cool stuff, skies the limit.


- yes, it seems that way (& the book hasn't really caught up with that). It's also important to note that some auctions featured special collections (which usually attract world-wide bidding). I believe that more world (US. European & Asian) collectors have turned towards Canadian paper $ since our currency has converted to polymer. A similar phenomenon occurred with Australian paper a while back I believe.
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I feel lucky enough to have gotten these notes at a online auction this week-end.
A bit late to the party, but well done.
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