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All info welcome of this unknown Denar Weight : 0,80 gr. / diameter : 17 mm / silver Coin found in Wallonië , Belgium av.: Person ( Bishop ?) with earring , in the right hand staff / scepter. rev. : 2 figures sitting at a table , cross / standard between Regards , Pinpoint   *** Moved by Staff moved to a more appropriate forum. ***Edited by pinpoint
05/16/2019 3:12 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have a reference to a likely candidate:
"FRISIA (Bolsward?) Egbert (1066-90) Penny.
Reverse copied from the representation of SS Simon and Jude on Imperial coins of Goslar,
AR, 0.69g., 18mm. Dannenburg 1 527 (?)
(Quote from attached caption to the #133 coin, illustrated on page 67 of
Coins of medieval Europe, by Philip Grierson, pub. Seaby, 1991)
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Valued Member
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Thanks for your help so far I know the Penningen from Egbert II from Frisia . In my opinion no match. We see on the av.the Emperor and on the rev. Simon & Judas with nimbus . On my coin we see two figures sitting at a table. Regards , Pinpoint   |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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It is no surprise to me to know that what I have suggested may be no match.
Just hoping to get this id search on the right track.
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Netherlands
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All new info is welcome  I already searched at : Liege ( Belgium ) Goslar & Speyer ( Germany ) Friesacher pfennigen ( Austria ) , Hungary , Bohemia , Krakow ( Poland ), Regards , Pinpoint |
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All new info is welcome @pp, I'm a little busy this weekend, but will try to take a look and get back to you if I find anything. I do have a small request, can you please re-take and post the second photo of this coin? Right now, there is a huge section that is washed out from the light. Maybe this section was never struck up, but if there is any additional detail then I'd like to see it. Thx! "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Netherlands
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Hello Spence You can' t see anything on this particular part of this coin . Maybe wear of. This coin also minted out of the center. It is a very interesting coin . Thanks for your help so far . Regards from The Netherlands , Pinpoint   Edited by pinpoint
05/18/2019 03:00 am
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There is a well known Polish denar from the reign of Boleslaw IV, which shows two figures seated at a table, as shown on one side of your denar (Kopicki 56). The table is similar, but the figures are not: https://onebid.pl/en/auction/523/lo...lem-NGC-ms65I don;t have a copy of Kopicki to see if there are variants of this denar that might match your coin, but it sounds like you may have already followed that line of inquiry. And it seems unlikely a Polish coin would have found its way to Wallonia. Edited by tdziemia
05/19/2019 6:32 pm
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Given the location, I wonder if it could be from some part of Lower Lotharingia that you haven't already searched? I am away from home, but can look in my copy of Ghyssens (Brabant) when I return. But I think your coin is before the period covered by that reference (1070 - ca. 1400 if I remember correctly).
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Ok sorry @pinpoint, but I give up on this one. I couldn't find a good match in Germany or Italy. I really don't have any good resources on the coins of the medieval Low Countries so that may be the problem.
"If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
-----King Adz
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Not in Ghyssens, which covers Brabant from the reign of Godefroi I (1090-). The other places I can think to look are the Kunker Catalog of the de Wit collection, or the various Elsen auctions that always have some medieval coins from this area (I think these catalogs are available electronically).
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05/23/2019 11:16 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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My first thought was Byzantine and indeed it looks slightly cup-shaped in the photos.
I believe it is a trachy of Isaac II or similar, most likely Constantinople mint.
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Netherlands
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Hallo Paralyse,
Thanks for your help ! I already search in Wildwinds on Byzantine trachy's .
Indeed there is similarity but I can't find a match with 2 figures seated at a table .
I also searched at Trachy's of Isaac II but no match so far.
This is a hard nut to crack !
Kind regards , Pinpoint
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