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info from NGC Specifications 1690 2 Daalders 57,990 mintage Composition: Silver Fineness: 0.9060 Weight: 31.7600g can anyone translate coin inscription ? opinions on condition rarity value Thanks rr Note: Dav. #4973.   |
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I don't know about translation, but I came across what I assume is your purchase: 192919863973What was your purpose in buying it? What do you collect?  In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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05/29/2019 02:08 am
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On the top picture the text reads LUCTOR ET EMERGO - I struggle and emerge, motto of the Dutch province of Zeeland.
On the bottom picture the text should read (ARG is worn off) MO NO ARG ORDIN ZEELANDIAE, which spelled out is Moneta nova argentea ordinarea Zeelandiae - New common silver money of Zeeland.
Condition and value I leave to others to judge.
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Thanks erafjel for the translation,very interesting
do you speak dutch? I was unable to find a translation online
yes spruett001,thats it.I find the history of old world coins fascinating.I like to research about them,to broaden my knowledge of history.Queen Victoria crowns tops my list,german states Wildman 2nd.
my purpose to hold history in my hands
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You're welcome  No, I don't speak Dutch, but the inscription is in Latin - which I don't speak either  But having seen a number of Latin coin inscriptions, I recognize certain abbreviations and the details I could dig out from the Internet. |
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recently acquired "Wildman" comments on condition? period when this region of germany was ruled by England German States BRUNSWICK-LÜNEBURG-CALENBERG-HANNOVER Thaler 1723 C George Ludwig (1698-1727)." This type was issued 1717-27. Wild man thalers were issued from this locality as late as 1755. George Ludwig was promoted to king of England on the death of his cousin Anne Stuart in 1714. This is the period when the duchy ceased to be known as Brunswick-Luneburg and called Hannover instead. Recorded mintage: unknown but somewhat scarce. Specification: silver. weight approx 12 g Catalog reference: Dav-2077; KM-134.   |
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Thanks erafjel,I should have realized it was Latin not Dutch.
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DG abbreviation I know is often seen on the old coins,latin "by the grace of God"
the divine right to rule
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Now this one was more of a challenge BRUN & LUN D S R I AR THES & EL = Brunswigae et Lunenbergae Dux Sacri Romani Imperii Archi Thesaurarius et Elector. These are the foreign titles of king George and translate to Duke of Brunswick and Luneburg, Arch Treasurer and Elector of the Holy Roman Empire. GEORGIUS D G MAG BR FR ET HIB REX FID D (FR is wrongly engraved as ER) = Georgius Dei Gratia Magna Britanniae Franciae et Hiberniae Rex Fidei Defensor. Translates to George by Grace of God King of Great Britain, France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith. Edited by erafjel
05/28/2019 1:05 pm
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wow thank you very much erafjel I appreciate the information |
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I find the history of old world coins fascinating. & excellent work, @erafjel! In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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05/29/2019 02:14 am
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@rrndawgs, that 18th century wildman is very interesting for its combination of Brunswick elements (the wildman) and British (the coats of arms). I'd never seen these types before, so thanks for posting it.
I've seen the same thing with Polish coins at the same time (roughly 1700 to 1730) when the same monarch ruled Poland as King Augustus II, and Saxony as Duke Friedrich August.
I think it's more accurate to say that the same man ruled both places rather than to say England ruled Brunswick...Hannover at this time (but others who are more familiar with that history might have better insights).
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I think it's more accurate to say that the same man ruled both places rather than to say England ruled Brunswick...Hannover at this time
tdziemia,yes I believe you are correct,I have learned much about European history from researching coins, I realize how fragmented,by regions,it was,often changing hands through time. |
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recently acquired 1658 German States BESANCON Thaler KM# 48 it weighs 24.1 g Obverse Lettering: MONETA.CIVIT.IMPER.BISVNTINÆ Reverse Lettering: CAROLUS.QVINT. / ROM.IMPERATOR. can anyone translate coin inscription ? opinions on condition,rarity,value Thanks rr    |
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In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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Beyond the above, I am concerned about the authenticity. It is quite underweight and looks a bit off to me. I'm no expert, though.
In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020
In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020
In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024
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