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1956 Five Cent Coin Struck On A Foreign Planchet?

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I was at our local coin and stamp club meeting tonight and a friend showed me an unusual five cent he had come across. I took out a magnet and was a bit surprised that it did not stick to the coin. Another member pulled out a scale and we proceeded to weigh the coin.....approximately 3.25 grams. The planchet is thinner than a regular five cent planchet. It also appears to be a bit smaller than a regular five cent coin.

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 Posted 05/29/2019  03:13 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting.
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 Posted 05/29/2019  03:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add purelywasted to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
interesting, too heavy to be a dime, maybe a thin planchette? Not sure about non-magnetic part.
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 Posted 05/29/2019  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Castor sous to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe cupro-nickel planchet similar in weight and thickness of a canadian nickel planchet because the details on both side are very well define. Very cool find.
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Thank you for the comments. Normal weight for a five cent coin during this time period was 4.54 grams. I suppose a 1.29 gram variance could be due to a number of factors including PMD. However, the reduced weight combined with the coin being non magnetic has me thinking the coin was struck on a foreign planchet. I am hoping someone with more knowledge of the RCM and the coins it was producing during this time period will be able to provide some further insight.
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Wear/PMD would not likely account for that much weight loss.
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Should be magnetic so PMD is off the table
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The mint was not making coins for foreign countries in 1956... and it sure looks like nickel, I wonder if it was demagnetized.... have you tried with a stronger, rare earth magnet? At first glance, it looks like it was struck on a split planchet...

One option is that the mint sometimes outsourced their 5-cent blanks from the Sherritt Mint in Fort Saskatchewan. Sherritt supplied coin blanks for a number of countries (mostly pure nickel blanks), so it could have come from that? That may require an exhaustive search in the Krause catalogue (1901-2000) for business strike coins weighting 3.75 grams, to figure that out...
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Thank you for the responses. I have contacted the owner and asked him to check the coin with a stronger rare earth magnet. I will let you know what the result is...
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Update re magnetic or non magnetic....A strong magnet failed to attract the coin, so it appears that the planchet is non magnetic.
SPP-Ottawa, I am not familiar with the Krause catalog, could you steer me in the right direction? Where can I find one?
Thank you.
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Hi ! you can always try to use this site with 1956 as search and try to find a similar weight and non magnetic planchet. You may even try 1955 and 1957 if you don't find it with 1956. happy research.

https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/in...y&te=y&cat=y

I did a very very quick search and alwredy find 2

https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces2933.html
https://fr.numista.com/catalogue/pieces968.html
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Neither one of those examples were struck at the Royal Canadian Mint. The mint didn't even strike coins for Ireland.
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Aside from the weakly struck 'NA,' and the very odd 3rd 'A' in the CANADA on the reverse, the number '5' in the '1959' is wrong. There is too large a gap between the top, and middle.
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Hmm ? 3.25 grams and not magnetic. A 1956 copper cent is supposed to be 3.24 gms. Hmm ? If it were mine, I would take a small knife and make the tiniest of scrapes on the edge and see if it's copper underneath. If a cent blank got in a bin of nickel blanks, the metal dust could get electrostatically or chemically attracted to the copper and leave a durable "silvery" coating (like powder-coating auto parts).
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