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1817 Bust Half You Vs PCGS

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I think they felt (rightly) that it was a decent coin overall but clipped the grade to reflect the old cleaning issue. It wouldn't bother many people, but it stands out to me.
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 Posted 06/16/2019  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smoke1439 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This piece has a PCGS Price Guide value of $450 in XF45 and it just brought $480+S/H at Heritage Auctions.

Want to see vastly different images of the same coin? Here you have it: https://coins.ha.com/itm/bust-half-...ption-071515


My pictures are much more accurate. One day I maybe I'll learn not to buy from a picture.
Greysheet bid $520, what a joke. Greysheet bid seems to have become the new retail.

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My pictures are much more accurate. One day I maybe I'll learn not to buy from a picture.
Greysheet bid $520, what a joke. Greysheet bid seems to have become the new retail.


I was afraid that was the case. I'd return it unless there's a huge financial hit on restocking.

The Heritage images make me scratch my head. While clearly the same coin the images are so different?
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EF cleaned...doesn't matter if it's just one quadrant that is cleaned...it's a cleaned coin! Nice details though.

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I think they felt (rightly) that it was a decent coin overall but clipped the grade to reflect the old cleaning issue. It wouldn't bother many people, but it stands out to me

Coinfrog in hand I don't think it would bother you that much. With the magnification and the way I lit the coin, which I did intentionally, really emphasized the scratches. This was a great example of how big auction houses, third party graders, and price guide publishers can possibly manipulate the market if they chose to do so. Under the appropriate topic we could go on and on........
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I agree with PCGS on this coin's grade.
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