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shatsi Pillar of the Community United States 1541 Posts	Posted 01/22/2006 10:19 am Your opinion on the grade and price please. Again the white spots are not on the coin. Rim ding on the observe. Image: 1864 Indian head.jpg 52.69 KB Report this Post to the Staff

ezsellingsolutions Valued Member United States 110 Posts	Posted 01/23/2006 01:00 am If there's an "L" in that head...I'll give it any grade you want!!! Report this Post to the Staff
Quartermaine New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 01/23/2006 01:37 am Hi, I took the image, lightened it & blew it up, sure looks like there could be an "L" there. See both images below I'm not that great at grading but it looks nice. JR. Edited to add: The image is large, 952x932 pixels, click on the X http://members.sparedollar.com/cats/indian.jpg http://members.sparedollar.com/cats/indian02.jpg Edited by Quartermaine 01/23/2006 02:27 am Report this Post to the Staff
shatsi Pillar of the Community United States 1541 Posts	Posted 01/23/2006 09:09 am I don't collect this series so I have no idea about the L, just looked at the Red Book and I see what you meant. Will take closer pics tonight. Report this Post to the Staff
Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 01/23/2006 10:34 am Regardless of the L, my opinion on the grade is a VG10 unless all of the letters in LIBERTY are visible. It appears from the pics that portions of all of the letters are visible but that many of the letters are incomplete which would bring it down from the Fine designation. If all letters in LIBERTY are clear and just now showing properly in the pic, I'd grade it at F12. One way or another, the letters don't look sharp enough to make a VF20. Report this Post to the Staff
shatsi Pillar of the Community United States 1541 Posts	Posted 01/24/2006 11:05 pm quote: Originally posted by Quartermaine Hi, I took the image, lightened it & blew it up, sure looks like there could be an "L" there. See both images below I'm not that great at grading but it looks nice. JR. Edited to add: The image is large, 952x932 pixels, click on the X http://members.sparedollar.com/cats/indian.jpg http://members.sparedollar.com/cats/indian02.jpg Image: 1864 Indian Head.jpg 86.54 KB I can't seem to find an 'L' Report this Post to the Staff
Quartermaine New Member United States 17 Posts	Posted 01/24/2006 11:27 pm quote: Originally posted by shatsi quote: Originally posted by Quartermaine Hi, I took the image, lightened it & blew it up, sure looks like there could be an "L" there. See both images below I'm not that great at grading but it looks nice. JR. Edited to add: The image is large, 952x932 pixels, click on the X http://members.sparedollar.com/cats/indian.jpg http://members.sparedollar.com/cats/indian02.jpg Image: 1864 Indian Head.jpg 86.54 KB I can't seem to find an 'L' Hi Shatsi, Oh well, I was hoping for you that there was one. If you look at my images there does appear to be a shadow of "something" there but there was no way for me to make a 100% determination with the photos supplied. I feel your disappointment. Report this Post to the Staff
Mike Rest in Peace United States 2884 Posts	Posted 01/25/2006 12:03 am Very tough to see the L(Longacre). If liberty is incomplete, by the old ANA grading standards and Ruddy's photograde it would not make the F-12 designation. I love the series. Still and all a neat looking coin! Mike Report this Post to the Staff
Georgiestar Valued Member United Kingdom 104 Posts	Posted 03/13/2006 5:05 pm oh my gosh I have this coin :D!!! but mine is dated 1906 Report this Post to the Staff
Susanlynn9 Forum Mom United States 5877 Posts	Posted 03/13/2006 5:31 pm Hi there Georgie. Indian Head cents were minted in the United States from 1859-1909. All were minted in Philadelphia except for some 1908 and 1909 that were minted in San Francisco. The mint mark for a San Francisco minted coin will be on the reverse under the wreath. From 1859-1864, the coins were struck in copper. Some 1864's were copper but most are bronze. The copper coins are thicker. The 1864s also have two different bronze varieties: with "L" and without "L". The "L" stands for Longacre (who designed it). This initial was added in 1864. Even if the "L" is not visible, the variety can be identified by looking at the tip of the bust. If it is pointed, it is the variety with. If more rounded, it's without. If you have a fair number of US coins, you may want to consider purchasing the Red Book Guide to US coins. It's not the best price guide, but it gives you loads of info on the coins. Report this Post to the Staff
Georgiestar Valued Member United Kingdom 104 Posts	Posted 03/13/2006 5:56 pm thanks for the info and the quick response! I have a verioty of different coins.. only a few are usa coins Edited by Georgiestar 03/13/2006 5:59 pm Report this Post to the Staff
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