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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks to all of you, I have learned that the devices are smaller on Machine Doubling,and I've looked at a ton of examples ( thanks Coop and many others on here) However, I look at a picture in the Cherry Pickers Guide and it looks like it would be considered Machine Doubling. Does anyone have a different way they "see" a doubled die? I'll post the pic of where they show doubling. 
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Uh, that's a genuine Doubled Die, not Machine Doubling. It isn't reduced in size. It's actually increased in size.
Errers and Varietys.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
94367 Posts |
Rabbit - Pic is definitely a DD, not MD. Look at the length of the lower image in relation to the top one.
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Pillar of the Community
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520 Posts |
I know it is, it's in the book. What I'm asking is ,what is the difference between what I see in my coin and this picture. Let me post a pic of the 1955d, of mine that I'm sure is machine doubled.  
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yours is not a DDO. The CPG is correct, it is a doubled die. The difference? The over all devices are enlarged by hub doubling. Kind of like the 1909 VDB DDO-001  Note the overall size of the devices are enlarged. While they look like MD, the size is enlarged. It takes seeing side by side of them to tell for sure:  
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Pillar of the Community
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520 Posts |
Oh my gosh! Ok, so the enlarged devices are the key, and not the lines..or look of a doubled image? Sorry if that's a dumb question.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Rabbit, the main thing to be able to see is what a normal design element should look like compared to the one you are questioning. These two images are from Coppercoins ( in the past Bob gave me permission to use the images on the site as long as I gave Coppercoins credit). The first image is a normal 9 from one of the rpm's and the second is ddo-001. It's when you compare the anomaly to a normal design element then you can determine hub doubling or Machine Doubling. Here you can see the hub doubled ddo-001 numeral 9 is larger than normal. Were the line of doubling inside the normal dimensions of that years 9 then it would be Machine Doubling. 
Edited by stoneman227 07/22/2019 9:25 pm
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
520 Posts |
Thank you guys for your replies! So would this one be something to look into? It's a side by side of dates on a 1942 s walking liberty, the 2 is obviously huge in comparison to the normal 2 . 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2376 Posts |
Looks to be some damage combined with some flattening from circulation
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
I thought I took that image. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2376 Posts |
Guess I should have asked you instead of Bob ! 
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