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Help With 2017-P LSC Lines Behind The "Um" On The Reverse.

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 Posted 07/23/2019  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add demelone to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try looking at it through a loupe, instead of a scope. You can maneuver the coin better and even hold it at an angle. The incused letters might be easier to discern.
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 Posted 07/23/2019  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Raised devices and incuse devices, all the rules change.

On raised devices, the lines can flow behind the devices because they are die scratches. Incuse marks on the tops of devices are damage that happened to the coin after it was struck.
On incuse (sunken devices), the letters are deep into the coin. The damage on the top of the coin can leave lines that makes it appear that is is behind the devices. But are on the surface of the coin. Just the opposite as raised devices.

Machine Doubling and a doubled dies:
On raised devices, Machine Doubling reduces the size of the devices. On a doubled die, the devices are enlarged.
On incuse devices: Machine Doubling enlarges the devices.
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On central doubled dies of these incuse devices they are reduced in size. Just the opposite happens.
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So they are opposite on raised and incuse devices.
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 Posted 07/23/2019  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evan7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am wrong. I thought EPU were raised, never realized they were sunken in. Learn something new every day
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 Posted 07/24/2019  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiff2128 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you everyone for your thoughts. I greatly appreciate everyone.
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 Posted 07/24/2019  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We all learn something new everyday. No one knows it all.
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