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Small Arabic Coin | Hyderabad 2 Pai

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I picked up a small, copper disc yesterday, with Arabic script on it. It is approximately the size of a US dime, however it is thinner. I see a date of 1365, Persian script? Can someone help? Is this a coin at all, or a token?

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India Princely states-Hyderabad, 2 Pai 1365/36
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Thanks!
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Wow I am always amazed when someone identifies such coin..
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Hi Elle,

This is not Arabic, its Indian using the arabic letters. So I will try translate what I can actually read and understand.

1st pic; "Hyderabad .......Struck Farkhand...."
2nd pic; "Deux (2/two)Pai .....Bahader "Nezam Al Mulk"

The dots "..." repesents words that I am not able to read.

Hope this help
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Thank you Amr! I hope you understand that I simply can't tell the difference? The closest thing I had to understanding was the '5'on the coin, since it's in the Persian script. With the rest of the Arabic script I can't even tell where one symbol starts and another ends!

It does help, lots! It gives me some words I can stick into Google, and see what comes out plus it gives me the name of the mint for the coin as well. Amazing.
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"Nizam el Mulk" (Discipline of the Kingdom) was the title given by the Mughal emperor Aurangzib to the founder of the Hyderabad dynasty, Asaph Jah; "Nizam" was the title claimed by all subsequent rulers of that state; if you rotate the coin so the date "1365" is right way up (rotate the bottom pic 120 degrees counterclockwise), then the name of the founder, "Asafjah" is above and between the two halves of the date. Above this name is the number "92"; nobody seems to know why all Hyderabad coins have the number 92 on them. Maybe it was Asaph Jah's lucky number? .

According to my "Arabic Coins and How to Read Them" book, which gives an entire page to the legends on the coins of Hyderabad, "bahadur" means "valiant".

On the reverse, there's also the reign date: year 36, on the inner rim at about 1 o'clock on the lower pic, which DCH alluded to when he said the coin was dated "1365/36".
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