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I suppose that some of this comes from inexperience but some years ago I purchased some older Lincoln cents from a member here. The coins were not cheap either, ranging from $50 to over $300. Anyway, they were described using terms like "beautiful cartwheel toning" and a variety of other cool sounding descriptions. Frankly, the coins looked cool and I didn't know any better. So I purchased these loose coins and eventually I sent them into NGC. Of the 6 or so that I submitted, the 3 with toning came back slabbed but described as "Altered color." I'm just curious if this is fairly conclusive that the coins were artificially toned? Could NGC be mistaken? The member insisted that they were genuine and I felt as though I was stuck with them. Even though the coin quality grade itself were really nice, when you read, "Altered color" wouldn't that detract from the value? Has anyone else run into a situation like this? How did you handle it? I treated it as a live and learn type thing but it has really made me leery of purchasing coins outside of ebay where at least there you have some recourse. Edited by johnstac
07/27/2019 03:53 am
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Bedrock of the Community
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Bedrock of the Community
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Possibly one of the reasons I never buy toned coins.
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Rest in Peace
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Sounds like your stuck between a rock and a hard place . just chalk it up and eat it . If you really like toned coins then only buy TPG'erd .  |
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Nope, but don't feel bad. Learning to distinguish the two can take a lot of time, practice, and patience.
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Toning is a judgement call. Without seeing the coins in question it it is possible that their judgement could change or that PCGS would disagree. It really depends on the coins. As with any details coins there are ones that are borderline and ones that are so bad they're never going to straight grade. When it comes to toning if they see a couple man made toners in a submissions they get more suspicious of the rest of them especially if they have similar looks
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Myself, I love toned coins. So answering your question, yes but not with intent. It took some time, and research, but I'm much more confident in determining altered from genuine. The toning must be uniform in both color and transition, relatively equal on both sides for me to buy one. In general though, I don't seek them out.
ANA member - PAN Member - BCCS Member There are no problems only solutions - the late, great John Lennon
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Pillar of the Community
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I just bought this one, a 1967 Special Mint Set Memorial cent. I put in a bid and then looked the seller's other coins. Most of them looked like they had artificial toning. It only cost me $1.60, shipping included, so it wasn't a big deal to me. I have sort of come to know which ebay sellers trade in artificially toned coins and avoid them. I didn't notice this one until I had hit the "Bid" button. It is pretty, though.   Paul Bulgerin
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Pillar of the Community
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Depending on what and how it's done I don't mind
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Quote: I just bought this one, a 1967 Special Mint Set Memorial cent. I like it.  |
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Try putting them in old sulfur imbued coin envelopes to get a more natural toning...take them out of the slabs first.
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